ARK: Survival Ascended

ARK: Survival Ascended

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Rordar Nov 10, 2023 @ 9:52am
AI still bad?
I read some threads and comments saying that the AI has dastically improved but the land dinos seem even dumber.

They run in circles or into walls, most wild dinos don't even run away if you tranq them for a knockout.

The only AI that has improved a little are the water dinos as I have noticed but all the other dinos seem way worse AI wise.

Dinos in ASE tried to seek different paths towards you if you stood on a cliff (if it was possible. That didn't always happen but they attempted to pretty often). In ASE the dinos will just straight up bug out, stand still or walk into the wall, cliff to bug themselves out...
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Noxsa Nov 10, 2023 @ 9:56am 
not true, ai on dino's is way better then old ark. that said is it perfect, heck no.
BUT, they do run away when they are about to go down, they way smarter when it comes to getting to you, i'd say they now run a bit around untill they see a better path. i take this ai over the old ai any time of day.
Nikki6 Nov 10, 2023 @ 10:06am 
ai is only slightly better if it is.. cant really tell because the map still has issues which cause the pathing for the dino to get messed up.
EazyLee Nov 10, 2023 @ 10:09am 
The only improvement is ai pathing

Everything else is still exactly the same, fighting dinos is easier now because their attack patterns allow you to dodge bites with ease. You can take raptors down with literally nothing from the get go

I expected herds and packs, proper dino ai, the trailer even gave false hope of this but nope. Still the same randomly scattered dumb dinosaurs everywhere

trailer also showed wild baby argys, but nope, once again lied to by wildcard
Last edited by EazyLee; Nov 10, 2023 @ 10:11am
Speedbump Nov 10, 2023 @ 10:15am 
Originally posted by EazyLee:
The only improvement is ai pathing

Everything else is still exactly the same, fighting dinos is easier now because their attack patterns allow you to dodge bites with ease. You can take raptors down with literally nothing from the get go

I expected herds and packs, proper dino ai, the trailer even gave false hope of this but nope. Still the same randomly scattered dumb dinosaurs everywhere

trailer also showed wild baby argys, but nope, once again lied to by wildcard
You were lied to by Snail Games, not Wildcard.
Xandor Nov 10, 2023 @ 10:15am 
I hope they improve the pathing more. It is much better than before but the creatures still get stuck in things.
Nabbs1 Nov 10, 2023 @ 10:16am 
its a bit better, I do notice different behaviors like a raptor running away only to ambush you later .. and dinos trying to figure out how to get to you in your safe space
Speedbump Nov 10, 2023 @ 10:20am 
Originally posted by Nabbs1:
its a bit better, I do notice different behaviors like a raptor running away only to ambush you later .. and dinos trying to figure out how to get to you in your safe space
Meh. They did that in the old game too. According to posts on Reddit, some creatures like Theri's have much better pathing while others are worse. I've personally only witnessed them being worse, with spinos not getting close enough to attack what they are aggroed to, so they just claw at the air doing no damage.
I haven't noticed any dino AI improvements at all. Water dinos might be the only ones because they don't unalive themselves at the water surface anymore...

Tamed dinos still run straight at you and often get stuck. Wild dinos still do that weird "run away then run at you" which as from ASE. Birds stop flying mid air for a few seconds. You can still cheese dinos by running in small circles. Wild dinos still run straight at you at first, wait a bit, then try to path find after 15 seconds of realizing they cant get you. Flyers still have the exact same pathing and try to land in the water... Amazing.

EDIT: forgot to mention dinos on follow get stuck on each other AND still run into you. Really good stuff. Improved AI, SnailGames solved AI.
Last edited by 𝓝𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓸𝓫𝓸𝓲; Nov 10, 2023 @ 10:56am
EazyLee Nov 10, 2023 @ 12:45pm 
Originally posted by Pig Helmet:
Originally posted by EazyLee:
The only improvement is ai pathing

Everything else is still exactly the same, fighting dinos is easier now because their attack patterns allow you to dodge bites with ease. You can take raptors down with literally nothing from the get go

I expected herds and packs, proper dino ai, the trailer even gave false hope of this but nope. Still the same randomly scattered dumb dinosaurs everywhere

trailer also showed wild baby argys, but nope, once again lied to by wildcard
You were lied to by Snail Games, not Wildcard.

Nope, wildcard compiled the trailer, wildcard did the promotion. Snail games just own wildcard that's all
Derivat949 Nov 10, 2023 @ 12:56pm 
Originally posted by EazyLee:
Originally posted by Pig Helmet:
You were lied to by Snail Games, not Wildcard.

Nope, wildcard compiled the trailer, wildcard did the promotion. Snail games just own wildcard that's all
Usually publishers take care of marketing, what's your source on that?
EazyLee Nov 10, 2023 @ 1:04pm 
Originally posted by Derivat949:
Originally posted by EazyLee:

Nope, wildcard compiled the trailer, wildcard did the promotion. Snail games just own wildcard that's all
Usually publishers take care of marketing, what's your source on that?

my source is the wildcard staff promoting the game directly from their personal social accounts, i just assumed the trailer was also compiled by them. They definitely handled most of the promotion though

Edit: I can't find any solid info on who created the trailer, but most of the search results give wildcard the credit
Last edited by EazyLee; Nov 10, 2023 @ 1:05pm
TJHoff Nov 11, 2023 @ 12:03am 
i got jumped by a lvl 145 alpha raptor, hopped off my parasaur, and fought it with a sword and hide armor. I didnt get hit ONCE. I just kept sidestepping and hitting it. We went round and round and round and round until it died. The ai is very stupid in asa.
Ziggsak2 Nov 11, 2023 @ 1:16am 
Originally posted by Noxsa:
not true, ai on dino's is way better then old ark. that said is it perfect, heck no.
BUT, they do run away when they are about to go down, they way smarter when it comes to getting to you, i'd say they now run a bit around untill they see a better path. i take this ai over the old ai any time of day.
Of course you and everyone else prefers easy mode these days so it is no surprise you prefer args running in circles till you down them. The dumb ♥♥♥♥♥♥ dinos can't even hit you now you can down a raptor with your hands at lvl 1
Average mid Nov 11, 2023 @ 1:24am 
The pathing is way worse than before if you dont believe me just put one of your dinos on follow and walk around a bit. Whistle follow on a ptera and you will see it do the exact same ridiculous circles around you that it did 8 years ago, nothing has changed for the better.
Speedbump Nov 11, 2023 @ 3:34am 
Originally posted by EazyLee:
Originally posted by Derivat949:
Usually publishers take care of marketing, what's your source on that?

my source is the wildcard staff promoting the game directly from their personal social accounts, i just assumed the trailer was also compiled by them. They definitely handled most of the promotion though

Edit: I can't find any solid info on who created the trailer, but most of the search results give wildcard the credit
Because they were told to. They're funded by Snail Games. Snail Games telling Wildcard to do something is like your boss telling you to do something, you can say no but if you piss them off you could end up jobless.
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Date Posted: Nov 10, 2023 @ 9:52am
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