LOL still letting people pillar

[onedudesmind]

I played on PVE official since early access on ps4 and for about 400 hours on here. They still haven't found a way to stop the douches from pillering everywhere. I suppose expecting competence from an incompetent development team, is my fault.

[RadCon One]

I think the answer to this is pretty easy: An object does not prevent building, nor does it have protection, unless there are at least 7 objects touching/connected at once (basically 6 walls/floors/ceilling to a 1x1 cube + a door).

An exception is made for 15 minutes after an object is placed (so that someone can't just stalk you and destroy your stuff before you have time to place 7 connected items).

If after the 15 minutes expires the object doesn't meet the requirements above it is automatically destroyed in 1 hit by any player with any attack (inlcuding unarmed).

If the conditions are met however then it forms a protected zone radius and any items in that range are additionally protected, so even if you place down, say, a trough on the grass, it is still protected since it is within the building's protection radius even though the trough itself does not fulfill the 7 item requirement, though the tough itself does not extend the radius any.

[Hotaka]

Problem is anything they do implement the griefers just find a way around. 7 item requirement to get that protection? They start placing 7 items.

[RadCon One]

Originally posted by Hotaka:

Problem is anything they do implement the griefers just find a way around. 7 item requirement to get that protection? They start placing 7 items.

7 items requires significantly more investment on their part however. Not only does it increase the building materials required, but, more importantly, it requires more time for them to pull off, which increases the chance of them becoming annoyed and stopping before they do as large of an area.

There will never be a perfect solution, no, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't do anything.

[dragonsphotoworks]

Why bunch of us stopped playing on officals long ago. Would go to new island to check it out... and all can see were pillars every were.

[AngryGreek]

Yup. I've only ever played single player and on private servers with my family. I thought I'd try joining a PVE server. I had to go so far away from the beach just to place a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ campfire so I could cook my meat, I ended up being meat to everything else. I swear the entire beach was nothing but constant pillars between shacks. It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Simple solution for PVE: you can set up one base within a very large radius. That base itself has a maximum radius from the first piece you put down.

[Rolow]

You're really whining about griefing in a public server for a game with one of the most toxic communities on the internet? lol

Griefing's been around since before you were born, my man. Instead of sitting there with a stupid look on your face waiting for someone else to solve your problem - might I suggest being an adult and creating your own solution(IE: host/join a private server that doesn't allow pillaring)?

Plenty of reasons to bash Wildcard, this ain't really one of 'em. If someone wants to grief in a video game the only real solution is to create a system that has no consequences player A can apply to player B and all I gotta say is: good luck implementing that into a predominately pvp game, lol.

[Noeat]

Originally posted by RadCon One:

Originally posted by Hotaka:

Problem is anything they do implement the griefers just find a way around. 7 item requirement to get that protection? They start placing 7 items.

7 items requires significantly more investment on their part however. Not only does it increase the building materials required, but, more importantly, it requires more time for them to pull off, which increases the chance of them becoming annoyed and stopping before they do as large of an area.

There will never be a perfect solution, no, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't do anything.

2 pillars and 5 ladders?

anyway, in past in ASE was common that when someone pillarized huge part of map, then when you report it, admin come and removed whole tribe - structures, dinos...

on other hand pillarized rare spawns and resource spawns (metal, crystal, obsidian) were fine
there was issue with new ppl who had no idea that metal dont respawn in radius around building... they just build right in middle of metal nodes and destroy that place for everyone... or they build right on Spino spawns and cancel possibility to fight bosses, because there was no spino at all

usually help, when ppl ask kindly, when they needed more room for their base. and ofc, everyone had some free perimeter around base. i didnt play on unoffi, then i dont know if there was a issue to ask ppl or not... but on offi it was ok.. mostly friendly ppl.

[dragonsphotoworks]

Originally posted by Noeat:

Originally posted by RadCon One:

7 items requires significantly more investment on their part however. Not only does it increase the building materials required, but, more importantly, it requires more time for them to pull off, which increases the chance of them becoming annoyed and stopping before they do as large of an area.

There will never be a perfect solution, no, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't do anything.

2 pillars and 5 ladders?

anyway, in past in ASE was common that when someone pillarized huge part of map, then when you report it, admin come and removed whole tribe - structures, dinos...

on other hand pillarized rare spawns and resource spawns (metal, crystal, obsidian) were fine
there was issue with new ppl who had no idea that metal dont respawn in radius around building... they just build right in middle of metal nodes and destroy that place for everyone... or they build right on Spino spawns and cancel possibility to fight bosses, because there was no spino at all

usually help, when ppl ask kindly, when they needed more room for their base. and ofc, everyone had some free perimeter around base. i didnt play on unoffi, then i dont know if there was a issue to ask ppl or not... but on offi it was ok.. mostly friendly ppl.

Have seen many tribes reported for pillar'ing huge areas of map. And Devs did nothing to fix it. On one server I jumped on now and then to talk to few friends. And for over 7 months same tribe had pillars covering 75% of the map. Same on many other servers. Devs mostly ignored reports. Think out of 5 servers over a year. Saw a dev come in twice to do some thing.

[Malcador, The Sigillite]

Solution is simple. Structures don't claim land. They can only be placed in claimed land (except obvious exceptions like sleeping bags). To claim land you need to place a flag. You only get a few.

2 thatch (very small radius, think big enough for a starter house or a small taming pen).

2 Wood, big enough for your typical wood house as you gain more workbenches and a few dinos.

2 stone, now you are getting into some serious land claim. You will be able to claim land enough for walling off your tames that you have gotten quite a few of, including larger ones like bronts/gigas. Its not big enough for you to make a whole warehouse of large dinos, thats not until...

1 metal. big enough that if you want you can make that large warehouse of dinos.

Finally, unlocked alongside the replicator You get your Tek flag. This baby claims enough area that you can build that mega base.

These are capped to only those numbers per tribe. No way to increase it.

[Tachyon]

Lol, people still wasting their time playing on Official.

[dragonsphotoworks]

Originally posted by Malcador, The Sigillite:

Solution is simple. Structures don't claim land. They can only be placed in claimed land (except obvious exceptions like sleeping bags). To claim land you need to place a flag. You only get a few.

2 thatch (very small radius, think big enough for a starter house or a small taming pen).

2 Wood, big enough for your typical wood house as you gain more workbenches and a few dinos.

2 stone, now you are getting into some serious land claim. You will be able to claim land enough for walling off your tames that you have gotten quite a few of, including larger ones like bronts/gigas. Its not big enough for you to make a whole warehouse of large dinos, thats not until...

1 metal. big enough that if you want you can make that large warehouse of dinos.

Finally, unlocked alongside the replicator You get your Tek flag. This baby claims enough area that you can build that mega base.

These are capped to only those numbers per tribe. No way to increase it.

That makes the most sense. Just needs SHOW area when placing flag so can see.

But like many say best is play on nonofficals or private. As official servers will have hackers, griefers and spammers. Just how it is. Even worse on PVP servers. You take long time to build a pretty base and get some dinos... And some one kites a giga into your base and you find every thing gone.

Why I play on friends servers or single player so dont need worry about the drama.

[Noeat]

Originally posted by dragonsphotoworks:

Originally posted by Noeat:

2 pillars and 5 ladders?

anyway, in past in ASE was common that when someone pillarized huge part of map, then when you report it, admin come and removed whole tribe - structures, dinos...

on other hand pillarized rare spawns and resource spawns (metal, crystal, obsidian) were fine
there was issue with new ppl who had no idea that metal dont respawn in radius around building... they just build right in middle of metal nodes and destroy that place for everyone... or they build right on Spino spawns and cancel possibility to fight bosses, because there was no spino at all

usually help, when ppl ask kindly, when they needed more room for their base. and ofc, everyone had some free perimeter around base. i didnt play on unoffi, then i dont know if there was a issue to ask ppl or not... but on offi it was ok.. mostly friendly ppl.

Have seen many tribes reported for pillar'ing huge areas of map. And Devs did nothing to fix it. On one server I jumped on now and then to talk to few friends. And for over 7 months same tribe had pillars covering 75% of the map. Same on many other servers. Devs mostly ignored reports. Think out of 5 servers over a year. Saw a dev come in twice to do some thing.

now? arent offi servers already down?
but nvm.. i have another experience (i mean.. they are not fast, it took month(s) to get admin on offi... but it works
i never saw some server pillarized as you said.. but there was lot of them, then some probably can be like that.
maybe i was extreme lucky on servers with cool ppl and not pillarized whole map

[dragonsphotoworks]

I was on 3 or 4 in the 5000s range? and 2 in.. I forget but higher number. Been long time so cant remember. And this was around 2-3 years ago at least. I quit servers long ago.

Also when takes month or longer to get a admin to get on a server... Thats bad sign. In that month how many players might try that server to play for first time. And run into that and have it stay for months with no help? If I am trying to join a server and month goes by and no admin removes blatant griefing... I wont be staying on that server. And many others will see it the same.

And waiting month + for a admin to simply join to fix it in 10-20 minutes.. And months pass. That doesnt really speak "Works". It says you got lucky one decided to swing by. And probably wasnt even there for that honestly. As one that did stop by for us had no idea of the problems that had been reported by half the server. And had to be told then.

[KahvozeinsFang]

Maybe they should start making players invest resources for base upkeep. Basically like RUST lol

[darcek]

Originally posted by dragonsphotoworks:

Why bunch of us stopped playing on officals long ago. Would go to new island to check it out... and all can see were pillars every were.

For me personally,If I encounter a problem I dont simply uninstall.
I try to deal with it.
Plus I found the challange of claiming a base in Official servers fun.
It was hard,in ASE cause I came way late(like 3 years after release)and everything was pillard plus mega bases.
But I managed to find a spot..letter neighbours left and ive expanded,little by littlle untill I had a huge base,with yard for dinos.