I hate Pillars

[Anni]

Please let these placeholder pillars and foundations as placeholders be automatically destroyed after 30 minutes. It's terrible with these pillars..entire islands..beaches..where nobody builds anything but only these stupid placeholders. People who want to build can't find anything. pls give us this automatic pillar destruction !

[Choomy Chunks]

This was huge problem in the OG Ark and its honestly disgusting that they haven't fixed it yet

[Sir_Skeleto]

Originally posted by Anni:

Please let these placeholder pillars and foundations as placeholders be automatically destroyed after 30 minutes. It's terrible with these pillars..entire islands..beaches..where nobody builds anything but only these stupid placeholders. People who want to build can't find anything. pls give us this automatic pillar destruction !

Its a PvP thing, there is no rules against spam on Official. Your best bet is Unofficial servers where it is banned due to lag etc. This is the same in all open world survival games besides Rust and Last Oasis (Because they have base cost things)

[123]

totally unenforceable ofc. if they implement something (as they did with single pillar/foundation decay) ppl will just spam 2x2 or 4x4 etc. you can argue the same about taming spikes and pens......

[Get Out]

Originally posted by Sir_Skeleto:

Originally posted by Anni:

Please let these placeholder pillars and foundations as placeholders be automatically destroyed after 30 minutes. It's terrible with these pillars..entire islands..beaches..where nobody builds anything but only these stupid placeholders. People who want to build can't find anything. pls give us this automatic pillar destruction !

Its a PvP thing, there is no rules against spam on Official. Your best bet is Unofficial servers where it is banned due to lag etc. This is the same in all open world survival games besides Rust and Last Oasis (Because they have base cost things)

It's not a pvp thing. You can destroy pillars in pvp. On the other hand in pve, you cannot destroy them so people can just claim land and grief players forever.

[Get Out]

Originally posted by Tuck:

totally unenforceable ofc. if they implement something (as they did with single pillar/foundation decay) ppl will just spam 2x2 or 4x4 etc. you can argue the same about taming spikes and pens......

It's not really. There should be a maximum structure limit. It's that simple. You don't need mega structures and bases that took half of the map. You don't need massive dino pens. Have a nice small-medium base, and moderate amount of dinos. You can literally solve this problem with limiting how many structures you can place on the map.

[123]

Originally posted by ☣ N\A ☣:

Originally posted by Tuck:

totally unenforceable ofc. if they implement something (as they did with single pillar/foundation decay) ppl will just spam 2x2 or 4x4 etc. you can argue the same about taming spikes and pens......

It's not really. There should be a maximum structure limit. It's that simple. You don't need mega structures and bases that took half of the map. You don't need massive dino pens. Have a nice small-medium base, and moderate amount of dinos. You can literally solve this problem with limiting how many structures you can place on the map.

Simple..until you log and find someone has built a spike wall or something right around your 'small' base. i not defending it but the problem is far more complex, one solution results in some other action. at the end of the day the only 'simple' solution is to ban it, actively admin. but the will is simply not there, like for resolving numerous other 'passive griefing' issues

[Anni]

Originally posted by Tuck:

totally unenforceable ofc. if they implement something (as they did with single pillar/foundation decay) ppl will just spam 2x2 or 4x4 etc. you can argue the same about taming spikes and pens......

They even use rafts for blocking now. Of course, you can report it officially, but it will definitely take a while until something happens, and then the person can still do it again and again until they are perhaps banned by the GM. but it will definitely take a long time until then...

[Anni]

Originally posted by ☣ N\A ☣:

Originally posted by Tuck:

totally unenforceable ofc. if they implement something (as they did with single pillar/foundation decay) ppl will just spam 2x2 or 4x4 etc. you can argue the same about taming spikes and pens......

It's not really. There should be a maximum structure limit. It's that simple. You don't need mega structures and bases that took half of the map. You don't need massive dino pens. Have a nice small-medium base, and moderate amount of dinos. You can literally solve this problem with limiting how many structures you can place on the map.

I have to come out because I also like to build a big base xD I don't mind if other people do this. I just find these space-free structures, where no one builds anything even after days or even weeks, massively annoying, and totally unnecessary and annoying when they block good building spots for other players

[retsam1]

Originally posted by Anni:

Please let these placeholder pillars and foundations as placeholders be automatically destroyed after 30 minutes. It's terrible with these pillars..entire islands..beaches..where nobody builds anything but only these stupid placeholders. People who want to build can't find anything. pls give us this automatic pillar destruction !

Welcome to ark. As others said this is something that occurred in the original ark game and will continue going forward. This is mainly only an issue on the official forums however and you may want to find any one of the 20k+ unofficial servers currently out there where basically its a non issue.


Ark's core flaw is ecocide for 8 years with ASE and remains true for ASA. Pillars are ire driving for people of course due to things like land barron'ing -but- its also meant in some cases to better prevent people from building and then radius blocking respawn of resources which also too include dino spawns. Otherwise, people have also been known to build their bases on top of say all the beaver spawn locations(since they coincide with some often desired base locations, and then you've no beaver spawns.

This is why people too tend to go to the small-medium pop servers on ASE(and ASA seems to be doing the same) unofficial wise so that they're ducking and weaving between rocks and trees from predators instead of ducking and weaving between mall sized bases and dino parking lots just to find a place to drop a campfire to not die from cold/starvation.

So again my best recommendation to you is to find a good unofficial server that best matches your wants.

[Anni]

Originally posted by retsam1:

Originally posted by Anni:

Please let these placeholder pillars and foundations as placeholders be automatically destroyed after 30 minutes. It's terrible with these pillars..entire islands..beaches..where nobody builds anything but only these stupid placeholders. People who want to build can't find anything. pls give us this automatic pillar destruction !

Welcome to ark. As others said this is something that occurred in the original ark game and will continue going forward. This is mainly only an issue on the official forums however and you may want to find any one of the 20k+ unofficial servers currently out there where basically its a non issue.


Ark's core flaw is ecocide for 8 years with ASE and remains true for ASA. Pillars are ire driving for people of course due to things like land barron'ing -but- its also meant in some cases to better prevent people from building and then radius blocking respawn of resources which also too include dino spawns. Otherwise, people have also been known to build their bases on top of say all the beaver spawn locations(since they coincide with some often desired base locations, and then you've no beaver spawns.

This is why people too tend to go to the small-medium pop servers on ASE(and ASA seems to be doing the same) unofficial wise so that they're ducking and weaving between rocks and trees from predators instead of ducking and weaving between mall sized bases and dino parking lots just to find a place to drop a campfire to not die from cold/starvation.

So again my best recommendation to you is to find a good unofficial server that best matches your wants.

If they block resources because others would otherwise build there, that actually makes sense As you can see right now, there are many who build on Bieber dams or on metal spots, animal spawns are prevented with spread foundations.

We have been playing Ark since the beginning, most recently we were at home on one of the last legacy servers and we wanted to play on Offi this time too. Maybe it would be enough if someone sent some brains to some players. In a few weeks or months many players will have disappeared again, as will his pillar. I hope so

[Orsa Torsa]

What makes it worse is. I think the pillar spammers, actually think their doing it for a good reason. The mental gymnastics they have to do to justify gate keeping an entire game from people lol. Its so rampant, that I'm not sure its even trolling anymore. I think its just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ being greedy.

Agree pillar spammers need to go and something needs to be implemented. I play on unofficial but its sad to see this is still a thing. At the very least, its absurd on PVE.

[Cobretti]

It can't be fixed in its current form.

What is the difference between a pillar which you want to destroy in 30 minutes and a base which should not be destroyed in 30 mins?

Throughout the history of Ark, the definition between spam and base has constantly changed and all people do is update their pillar spam so the game defines it as a base hence pillar + ladder spam you see today.

If WC said "OK, from now on, everything that doesn't have 4 walls and a roof will decay in 30 minutes", everyone will just spam 1x1 houses.

I can see that land claim blocks would work but would limit your ability to build what you want which may just be the stance you need to take on public servers.

[Toprongy]

to be fair the performance is just bad for multiple people and using pillars around your base can prevent others building close to yours and you can mostly load your base and not other people's huge and ugly bases

[AngryGreek]

I feel your pain. I couldn't so much as build a campfire to cook some food. I had to go so far inland as a low level that I became someone else's food. I gave up and went back to single player. No point in playing with groups if those are the type of people I'd be playing with. And PVP? LOL, no thanks to being taken as a slave or worse.

[Anni]

Originally posted by AngryGreek:

I feel your pain. I couldn't so much as build a campfire to cook some food. I had to go so far inland as a low level that I became someone else's food. I gave up and went back to single player. No point in playing with groups if those are the type of people I'd be playing with. And PVP? LOL, no thanks to being taken as a slave or worse.

The only thing which is working..you can write a ticket...but it takes some days until you get answer. You can have pillar removed where no one is playing there or has a base.