The most SAD thing in the game![Shop,Setup,etc.]

[T.tv/powerofgreed]

There is no reason for remake not to remake shop, hungar menuing.
I mean it take too much time to buy\sell new staff, it take to much time to re-equip items for wanzers. Menu is just too much inconvenient.
I mean, you should, im talking to DEVS, make menu control more advanced compared to old one.
We cant even change pilots\wanzers with R1 L1 while in shop or in setup\hungar like in fm 3,4,5 etc.
Im wasting like x5 time more on menu rather playing fights.

[Sobrio]

Especially when there is new gear at every new town after each mission.

[Usuario No Registrado]

Originally posted by Sobrio:

Especially when there is new gear at every new town after each mission.

I was really surprised how often new stuff would show up in the shop after a mission.

If there are two things I would have liked for the devs to change is the skill system and the menus. Still it's a pretty good game.

[Daemoc]

Yeah, the entire shop/setup function should be in the same menu. Two things could fix the issue though.

1: If you want to change a part in the shop and you already own that part it should pull it from your inventory first, rather than buy a new one.

2: Allow you to "unequip" in the shop. It could be as easy as adding an "empty" item in the shop list that does not cost anything.

Lastly, not shop related, but menu related.
The "guide/duel" skill "no guide" button either needs a hot key or the button needs to be relocated to the top left corner where the weapon selection is.

Better yet, allow us to "unequip" learned skills. That skill is worthless and it just adds an extra mouse move and click to every attack.

[popsicle]

Originally posted by Daemoc:

Yeah, the entire shop/setup function should be in the same menu. Two things could fix the issue though.

1: If you want to change a part in the shop and you already own that part it should pull it from your inventory first, rather than buy a new one.

2: Allow you to "unequip" in the shop. It could be as easy as adding an "empty" item in the shop list that does not cost anything.

Lastly, not shop related, but menu related.
The "guide/duel" skill "no guide" button either needs a hot key or the button needs to be relocated to the top left corner where the weapon selection is.

Better yet, allow us to "unequip" learned skills. That skill is worthless and it just adds an extra mouse move and click to every attack.

I see what you are saying. The whole experience could have been combined into 1 menu page. But at the same time they need to keep it like the original FM1.

[Yoshi]

Originally posted by T.tv/powerofgreed:

We cant even change pilots\wanzers with R1 L1 while in shop or in setup\hungar like in fm 3,4,5 etc.

I felt the same way. In Front Mission 2089 on DS too, we were able to change those with R1/L1.

[Shirayuki Mizore]

Originally posted by popsicle:

Originally posted by Daemoc:

Yeah, the entire shop/setup function should be in the same menu. Two things could fix the issue though.

1: If you want to change a part in the shop and you already own that part it should pull it from your inventory first, rather than buy a new one.

2: Allow you to "unequip" in the shop. It could be as easy as adding an "empty" item in the shop list that does not cost anything.

Lastly, not shop related, but menu related.
The "guide/duel" skill "no guide" button either needs a hot key or the button needs to be relocated to the top left corner where the weapon selection is.

Better yet, allow us to "unequip" learned skills. That skill is worthless and it just adds an extra mouse move and click to every attack.

I see what you are saying. The whole experience could have been combined into 1 menu page. But at the same time they need to keep it like the original FM1.

No they didn't. They just didn't bother to update archaic systems. Everything non-visual was simply copy pasted from DS version without a single thought.

[NiNoStyle]

who knows... maybe the developers just didn't have the right to change something

[Shirayuki Mizore]

Originally posted by NiNoStyle:

who knows... maybe the developers just didn't have the right to change something

Right, total overhaul transition from pixels to 3D models, new camera modes. But adding L1/R1 swap to setup and merging selling/buying/setup together is big no? That is very naive thinking.

This is the most basic of basics QoL improvements any Remake could and should have done.

[Melkai]

Agree. Setup menu is garbage.

[Pnume]

Yep +1
They could for example give us the possibility to create template models for different roles.
Like a melee build and once you have upgraded your melee build, you can apply it to all your melee characters versus payment

[Outsider]

Go back and play SNES original for 10 minutes.
Menus not being slow as hell is huge improvement ALREADY.
I simply can't play original game anymore.

[REhorror]

Menu is fine to me.

My only problem is that there doesn't seem to be any scrolling, I'm using a 4K display.

[Naldo de Souza]

This is my biggest complaint from the original, sad to know it's still a thing.
Great game anyway.

[LuckyCarbon]

Never played the originals, and I certainly don't care how faithful a menu. It's a remake, not a re-release, updating the UI is highly encouraged.
I'll second a few requests here:
1. Combine the setup menus: it should show how many equipped & unequipped of an item are currently in inventory and equip any existing items before purchasing a new one.
2. The "currently" equipped section under the right side panel should list what the current item's stats are.
3. The Buy window doesn't scroll, this is just a bug.
4. Add a sell all button to the sell windows. After re-equipping my mechs I haven't found a use for old equipment yet, going through and updating the quantity of each item to sell is just tedium.

Not menu related but please...
5. Add a middle option between instant attacks and the full side by side view version. I'd love to play combat from top down only but still actually see the animations & fx.

[Davaretta]

The UI is so bad, I can't believe this is the actual layout of the shop. So clunky and unintuitive. It really doesn't invite you to keep playing.