Early access with $$$$$ DLC no thankyou

[spika]

So saw this, saw the positive reviews and thought I would take a look, this is going to be another one of those games that demands hundreds of dollars ? Its just early access and already a season pass higher priced that most other games season passes, which going by other reviewers locks content we should have access to behind it, like mulitplayer?
WTF , that's really disappointing . Im all for paid DLC but why not just charge more for your game and scrub the DLC until its actually released, or release it as optional content like POE2 that we don't need to own to actually play the game ? then , again like POE2, if people love the game they will choose to buy the content but not be forced to ...

So over all the dodgy dlc practices these days , kind of ruins a lot of games, as I tend to stop playing those games knowing I one day may succumb to having to pay for that DLC I really don't want just to progress so I end up ignoring those games instead until one drunken night I decide to get back into it and before i know it .....

[FaultyJawa]

Multiplayer isn't locked behind DLC. You can race online in all classes with the base content and the free cars that are available.

[DrivingFast]

so don't buy it simple
we enjoy

[Ziltoid TV]

That is your choice not to buy the DLC and you can race online with the base game without paying out anymore cash.

I personally bought the season pass and Racecontrol Pro, not that i have been able to race much lately but i'm willing to put my money in as this is a great game.

[Aysedasi]

Originally posted by Ziltoid TV:

That is your choice not to buy the DLC and you can race online with the base game without paying out anymore cash.

I personally bought the season pass and Racecontrol Pro, not that i have been able to race much lately but i'm willing to put my money in as this is a great game.

Likewise for me. No-one is forcing anyone to do more than buy the base game.

[jellobiafra]

Exactly, the base game is perfect as it is, it's practically given away for free by the exemplary generous devs.
It also has everything you need and is a blueprint for other racing games.
They should all model themselves on this one.
Their content is all totally unnecessary, nobody needs anything like that.
This game is the best ever!

[Ranold Arzenschwegger🕹]

I find this business model extremely shabby. Of course they want to make money with it and I am prepared to pay something. But behind every click in the menu there is a paywall. That is too much. It is just a rip-off of the worst kind.

[schigara]

One day when you get off the tit, you will get a grown up. big boy job that pays real money and you will stop stressing over a few measly 20 dollar bills! Good grief! STFU

[Aysedasi]

Originally posted by jellobiafra:

Exactly, the base game is perfect as it is, it's practically given away for free by the exemplary generous devs.
It also has everything you need and is a blueprint for other racing games.
They should all model themselves on this one.
Their content is all totally unnecessary, nobody needs anything like that.
This game is the best ever!

For me, yes it is. But we're never all going to agree on that, so we just post our opinions.

[Ziltoid TV]

Originally posted by Aysedasi:

Originally posted by jellobiafra:

Exactly, the base game is perfect as it is, it's practically given away for free by the exemplary generous devs.
It also has everything you need and is a blueprint for other racing games.
They should all model themselves on this one.
Their content is all totally unnecessary, nobody needs anything like that.
This game is the best ever!

For me, yes it is. But we're never all going to agree on that, so we just post our opinions.

Exactly, do they want us to lie so they can feel better? lol

[lee1hy]

This game is not on sale and seems to be abandoned

[jellobiafra]

Originally posted by Ziltoid TV:

Originally posted by Aysedasi:

For me, yes it is. But we're never all going to agree on that, so we just post our opinions.

Exactly, do they want us to lie so they can feel better? lol

Interesting, who is ‘us’ and ‘them’ in this context?

And it may not be lying, but telling only half the truth isn't that great either.
You can do an online race now and again without DLC, but you'll probably reach a limit pretty quickly.

[shadow82]

Originally posted by jellobiafra:

Interesting, who is ‘us’ and ‘them’ in this context?

Propaganda 101 :
- us : anyone who I agree with on the moment, to give more weight to my opinion and reduce yours.
- them : everyone else, to make you feel not welcomed and excluded from the discussion/community.

On the topic though, multi-player is not locked behind paywall entirely, but without DLC or subscription you limit your access to basically a few select events. No championship, sometime no daily, sometime no weekly, some special events and of course you can't host anything.

Meanwhile in AMS2 you can for example host yourself a server, free of any charge for as long as you want using your owned content and any player with the base game can join (regardless of DLC ownership). This is an extreme case at the other end of the spectrum, but there must be a place in between, right ?

[Ziltoid TV]

Originally posted by jellobiafra:

Originally posted by Ziltoid TV:

Exactly, do they want us to lie so they can feel better? lol

Interesting, who is ‘us’ and ‘them’ in this context?

And it may not be lying, but telling only half the truth isn't that great either.
You can do an online race now and again without DLC, but you'll probably reach a limit pretty quickly.

I was replying to Aysedasi so him and me is "us" so that leaves the others as "them", quite simple really but you guys love to twist stuff we say to make you feel better.

I have never said the game is fully working with no bugs or broken bits i just give my side of it and 95% of the time i have a great time, yes i too do get problems too but i don't go crying about it (mostly lol) i actually see if i can get it working.

It is quite clear some just want to bash and twist s**t which is not really helpful is it.

[Aysedasi]

Originally posted by jellobiafra:

Originally posted by Ziltoid TV:

Exactly, do they want us to lie so they can feel better? lol

Interesting, who is ‘us’ and ‘them’ in this context?

And it may not be lying, but telling only half the truth isn't that great either.
You can do an online race now and again without DLC, but you'll probably reach a limit pretty quickly.

With respect, you clearly haven't played LMU much recently as, particularly with the advent of the championships, this simply isn't correct.

[Aysedasi]

Originally posted by shadow82:

Originally posted by jellobiafra:

Interesting, who is ‘us’ and ‘them’ in this context?

Propaganda 101 :
- us : anyone who I agree with on the moment, to give more weight to my opinion and reduce yours.
- them : everyone else, to make you feel not welcomed and excluded from the discussion/community.

On the topic though, multi-player is not locked behind paywall entirely, but without DLC or subscription you limit your access to basically a few select events. No championship, sometime no daily, sometime no weekly, some special events and of course you can't host anything.

Just NOT correct. This is what happens when those who want to give the impression that they know what they're talking about have made little or no effort to play the sim for weeks or months and are desperate to be able to continue to argue a case which has markedly changed. A few days ago you posted on here that someone shouldn't listen to me. That's fine, I'm perfectly aware of your agenda (we all are - that's 'us', by the way) but hopefully those who drop in here casually for information about LMU pay zero attention to the inaccurate comments you make.