Studio 397 and MSG

[adepenguin]

First of “This is NOT a rant”

I know they do not read these discussions, but I’m sure someone will copy and paste it to them.

I would just like to say Studio 397 and Motorsport Games have completely messed this whole thing up with Le Mans Ultimate.

IMHO
What you should have done is released a DLC Mod for RF2 with reduced levels of graphics, so everyone could play the LMU content.
Then, also released the LMU title with the special features of competition style racing.

By doing this you would of made more money through RF2 and additional with the LMU title, plus gained a bucket load of respect from the racing community instead of dividing it into who can afford high spec pc’s and who can’t.

I am not pointing a finger or blaming anyone, but I believe this whole situation with RF2, Studio 397 and MSG is poor management and leadership.

Your shares you released last week at $2.17 are struggling and plummeted to $1.66. Now they can’t rise above $2.00.

Studio 397 and MSG, if you want to save yourselves….

1. Finish the BTCC for RF2, more car mods and the final tracks.
2. Release a 2023 and 2024 LMU DLC pack for the RF2.
“I would buy it on release”
3. Fix this LMU title by hiring the right people to do the work.

This is a shame what’s going on here, if it was done differently…..
This would be epic!

[Aysedasi]

For many of us it actually is already.

[Roddy]

Honestly I don't even like rf2 that much, so either way they're effed.
Releasing paid dlc for an EA game that's not even close to done or stable is obviously just a money grab, which they probably need to even keep working on the game.
I'm keeping my hopes up tho, maybe one day it'll be there - and maybe even support vr.
Doesn't matter either way to me really - i just bought it as I seem to be collecting race sims.
I'm more of an open-wheel driver anyway, and I tend to avoid tin-tops.
I knew all the issues MSG was having before i bought it... just look at Nascar Ignition.
It does have potential.

[FaultyJawa]

I think Studio 397 is doing just fine with the game. It's MSG that needs to let them go and hand them off to a publisher who actually knows how to manage money.

[Roddy]

Originally posted by FaultyJawa:

I think Studio 397 is doing just fine with the game. It's MSG that needs to let them go and hand them off to a publisher who actually knows how to manage money.

Yes, I can agree with that - however rf2 is still in EA right? how many years later?

[adepenguin]

Originally posted by Aysedasi:

For many of us it actually is already.

Yeah so you keep saying.
Good for you.

But you completely missed the point of what I was saying.
By releasing a DLC Mod for RF2 they would get more users and sales which would help them avoid bankruptcy.

Because if you look MSG up in Companies House and the Nasdaq shares (which has just hit $1.65 a share)
They are sinking fast.

So no amount of butt kissing will save them.
Something has to change and quickly because there are more people fed up with LMU then are happy with it.

Do you understand now why I say this is a shame?

[shadow82]

Originally posted by adepenguin:

Do you understand now why I say this is a shame?

Don't bother, you said "bad" things about the studio and/or the game, you are on their hate list now whatever truth you may expose.

[Aysedasi]

Originally posted by adepenguin:

there are more people fed up with LMU then are happy with it.

Stats for that claim?

[Aysedasi]

Originally posted by shadow82:

Originally posted by adepenguin:

Do you understand now why I say this is a shame?

Don't bother, you said "bad" things about the studio and/or the game, you are on their hate list now whatever truth you may expose.

You are just on the 'hilarious' list.... ;-)

[adepenguin]

Originally posted by shadow82:

Originally posted by adepenguin:

Do you understand now why I say this is a shame?

Don't bother, you said "bad" things about the studio and/or the game, you are on their hate list now whatever truth you may expose.

I hear you and I understand what you’re saying.

But it’s best to be open about what MSG and Studio 397 are facing.
If MSG declares bankruptcy, then Studio 397 will be stripped clean of everything and sold off, everything will shutdown and those in denial will be the ones complaining about losing £125.

To give those a bit of an eye opener.
MSG in February 2021 was listed on the NASDAQ at $300 a share.
In three years they’re struggling to maintain $1.80!

I like RF2, I like LMU “I don’t have a pc good enough to run it, but I bought it”
I’m waiting till intel launches their 15th gen cpu and Nvidia launch their 5000 series, before I commit money for new hardware.

But by the looks of things MSG, Studio 397, RF2 and LMU will be shutdown before then.

[adepenguin]

Originally posted by Aysedasi:

Originally posted by adepenguin:

there are more people fed up with LMU then are happy with it.

Stats for that claim?

That’s ok I don’t need to prove anything to you.

[FaultyJawa]

Originally posted by adepenguin:

Originally posted by Aysedasi:

Stats for that claim?

That’s ok I don’t need to prove anything to you.

I have no stake in this argument, but objectively, Burden of Proof lies on the person making the initial claim.

[FaultyJawa]

Originally posted by Roddy:

Originally posted by FaultyJawa:

I think Studio 397 is doing just fine with the game. It's MSG that needs to let them go and hand them off to a publisher who actually knows how to manage money.

Yes, I can agree with that - however rf2 is still in EA right? how many years later?

Oh I don't think S397 should be their own publisher either lol. It sucks that there aren't better options out there for racing game studios.

On one hand, I want to see 397 get with a publisher who has the capital and financial proficiency to help them succeed. But on the other hand, Electronic Arts and Microsoft would kill any spirit LMU has. Maybe Sony? But then we'd have to worry about how they'd handle it in tandem with GT7. Nacon maybe? I dunno. Not a lot of great options that I'm aware of.

[adepenguin]

Originally posted by FaultyJawa:

Originally posted by adepenguin:

That’s ok I don’t need to prove anything to you.

I have no stake in this argument, but objectively, Burden of Proof lies on the person making the initial claim.

You can browse the internet and it’s flooded with negative comments, launching issues and CTD complaints.

I said back in February something smells fishy but now it all just smells rotten and everyone’s post just reads of denial and distraction from reality.

[Shoestring]

Game has like a 72% positive rating. The game is great. I also love rF2. I keep saying, and could be totally wrong, that once Race Control rolls out as a standalone launcher to launch races from either game, that will be a boon for both. Eventually updates from LMU can be rolled into rf2, while still saving some content only for LMU. That is my hope, anyway. There were a lot of people racing online in rF2 via RC before LMU dropped and then most people dove into LMU

[r33fermadness]

Originally posted by Aysedasi:

For many of us it actually is already.

Yeah. Even if all development stopped now, I'd still play this game and likely for years to come. Epic races to be had.

Why anyone would waste time following the stock shares of a game company is a mystery to me. But, party on i guess. You're better off racing IMO.