Apocalypse armor?!

[DevilMedic]

So here's a suggestion... When using the workshop to mod armor and weapons how about you let us know the stats beforehand so we can decide if we want to do it? I just modded the advanced tac vest into apocalypse armor and it completely ruined it for me. The two best things about the adv tac vest was NO AP PENALTY and a relatively LOW WEIGHT. Now my frigging AP is nerfed and I'm wearing something heavier than the freaking regular tac vest. This is now a completely and utterly useless piece of gear imo, as the adv tac vest on its own soaked up damn near all the damage thrown at it, so the "gains" are pretty much pointless for me.

[drake_hound]

It get worse so is your ballistic protection went down.

Only good thing about the Apocalypse armor is it looks and build in gasmask.

[drake_hound]

And I did warn people :P so understand your rage...
Good thing I backed up my saves and went back. but really awesome look.

Crappy armour, remove the -1AP penalty ASAP atleast. and cut down the weight.

[DevilMedic]

Yeah, I was expecting it to go up a bit... maybe five pounds or so. But twenty freaking pounds AND an AP penalty? I dont give a ♥♥♥♥ about a built in gas mask. GIMME MY STATS BAAAACK.

[Malichai]

I noticed the exact same thing and reverted to an older save to get my advancted tactical armor back.

[DevilMedic]

Yup. Reverting now. That would make sense if it used the regular tac vest. But the fact that it destroys the best armor in the game is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[drake_hound]

Originalmente postado por DevilMedic:

Yeah, I was expecting it to go up a bit... maybe five pounds or so. But twenty freaking pounds AND an AP penalty? I dont give a ♥♥♥♥ about a built in gas mask. GIMME MY STATS BAAAACK.

He I agree 100% with you lol, I made a special character to get 12 AP took special -1 AP melee skill , to get off 2 special attacks a turn.
And I can´t even used it after 50 hours of building that damn piece of junk..

But it looks so good !! so give back my stats indeed :P before I am going to mod it.
(I really had to resist hard before I was going to mod it. cause I know once I start modding, I won´t stop)

[Markus]

25 def vs 12
b4 crying us a river,try it AT LEAST ONCE.
this armor MADE FOR TANKS.
Apoc. + Riot shield + Flang. Mace = Solo any map.

[DevilMedic]

It doesn't matter. The adv tac vest had excellent stats and I was able to solo with that. They took a great armor and RARE and removed the two best things about it in exchange for more, unneeded, defense.

[Osmos]

Crits can bypass resists and AC. Or am i wrong?

[DevilMedic]

You are correct as far as I know.

[goatyhead]

your armor will still absorb critical shots. use the AP armor if you know you are going against a heavy apponent, use the lighter armor for areas with a lot of loot and mostly zeds and wimpy looters.
the good thing about the armor is you are a freaking tank. Full shot gun blasts, no damage. put it on on Max, with a tower shield , riot helmot, gloves, work boots and a mace and let him go to town. He draws the fire and you pick people off in a distance.

the advanced foes all throw gas, you will be thanking yourself later for not going blind or passing out

I love mine. I went through the coyote compound like it was butter.

[Osmos]

Dunno about it. When i cleaned up Hospital and was about to leave - i meet some army remnants (4 or 5 soldiers). One crit from combat shotgun did about 100dmg through 50 ballistic resist and 20 AC to my main character :(

[drake_hound]

Originalmente postado por Markus:

25 def vs 12
b4 crying us a river,try it AT LEAST ONCE.
this armor MADE FOR TANKS.
Apoc. + Riot shield + Flang. Mace = Solo any map.

hello 40 ballistic resist vs 20 ballistic resist isn´t worth 13 def. -1ap and 35 weight.

Why anything with Riot shield becomes a tank anything with barricade shield becomes a tank.
Cause of the resist values against ballistic.
Only threat are ballistic weapons later on.
That is why you wear tactical leggings over construction boots !

Here mr stabby with tactical armour advance, grip gloves. riot shield and fire man helmet.
Is solo a whole map too. even if you replace the fireman helmet with a gasmask.

And no criticals bypass all resist and absorbtion. don´t believe it use mr stabby on those high end bosses and voila always 2 hit kills !
So when AI critical hit it bypass simply put all your armour.

No Apocalypse suit is a piece of junk, remove that riot shield please and try it out LMAO.
The riot shield is what keeps you alive, not that piece of low ballistic armour.

Do remove the riot shield and see how fast you die :P
Let me guess so much for your tank 25 def later on .
I have in the margin of 40 def and more. still the higher mobs hit me like butter. but without that armour, none of my troops even get hurt with advanced tactical armour.

let alone the additional weight in slowing you down. grab riot armour from austin.
It is similair to apocalypse armour, doesn´t need advanced tactical armour.
And sure no gasmask built in. but who cares. if bullets can´t hurt you :P
They are no threat.

[drake_hound]

Sorry they should either use the blue print tactical armour (which aside from cool color :( )
Is a piece of junk compared to swat armour and advanced tactical suit.

Or they should buff Apocalypse armour.
This is one of the reason balancing of armour is so important.
That causes a lot of frustration, we want to look cool we pay in price of being hamstringed.
Motor suit armour, very cool look, two bosses wear it. problem it is none functioning for the endgame. you will die in it at Austin and army basses if they hit you.

Now just remove the weight and -AP, fine give us 30 ballistic protection.
I can do with less def on that armour cause of RIOT shield and other min max def pieces on other slots.

[drake_hound]

50 hours (only sera or other science 10) can make it. 60 parts. and only 1 person on it at a time.
Delivers a piece of junk and takes away your best armour in game.