Are lockpicks still useless?

[Dogbite]

Never felt the need to use one. My tactic is to stand within sight of the locked door, split off a heavy melee, have them bash the door, and then run back to the group. One solitary zombie wanders round and stands at the door. Have the heavy melee character one hit it. Bash the door again, etc.

Feels like I'm using an exploit and I hate that in games.
"Don't use it then."
Better if it was taken out, make lockpicks a viable choice. I have zero willpower.

Not played patch 5, waiting for release to start again.

[Lord Potassium]

I concur that lockpicks are not compeletely necessary. I think they fixed that with patch 5 where multple people or zeds will come over when you hit a door. lock picks are only useful for stealth, tbh
i feel like they need to make it harder and louder to break doors down and yes, they do need to attract more than 1 zed or person. they should make it that all the zombies on the map move over to that location and maybe make it so that the noise level automatically hits 100 or at least yellow level depending on the door. I think it makes sense that 1 human goes to check on the noise though. but if you kill him everyone else goes on alert or and the door is open or what would be condidered noticable damaged, then he'll go back to warn his mates. Also if they consisently hear the noise being hit they go on guard.

[Dogbite]

There are some good ideas in your post, but I'm thinking just remove lockpicks altogether and replace it with a different "perk". I don't know what though. Locks on houses, shops, police stations and supermarkets these days I reckon would be nigh on impossible to "pick". I'd like to see that every door has to be binned in, but there are consequences. The more loot, the more aggro. This would be a hindrance to trying to get horses on day 1. You would need a fairly levelled up crew to get at the decent gear. Maybe enemy snipers/multitudes of zombies appear when you're after the good stuff and making loads of noise.

[Skaldy]

Originally posted by Dogbite:

There are some good ideas in your post, but I'm thinking just remove lockpicks altogether and replace it with a different "perk". I don't know what though. Locks on houses, shops, police stations and supermarkets these days I reckon would be nigh on impossible to "pick". I'd like to see that every door has to be binned in, but there are consequences. The more loot, the more aggro. This would be a hindrance to trying to get horses on day 1. You would need a fairly levelled up crew to get at the decent gear. Maybe enemy snipers/multitudes of zombies appear when you're after the good stuff and making loads of noise.

if it has a key and a key hole you can pretty much lockpick it. And modern locks you are reffering to are common in urban areas not rural country side places so i guess locks we pick in the game are pretty basic one. From my lockpicking exprience i can say you can pretty much lock pick any wooden,glass door with screwdriver and wire or real tools like a real lockpick. When i got drunk during my youth and lock myself out of my house i use to pick my door which was steel reinforced and i picked it with a plastic water bottle. But for speaking for military grade locks game is dull. I mean even in my 3rd world country we use computer based key card locks. So we can use science/hack skill maybe? Just an idea

[Dogbite]

Skaldy vomited:
"if it has a key and a key hole you can pretty much lockpick it."

Yeah, OK Raffles.

Skaldy also puked out this gem:
"From my lockpicking exprience i can say you can pretty much lock pick any wooden,glass door with screwdriver and wire or real tools like a real lockpick. When i got drunk during my youth and lock myself out of my house i use to pick my door which was steel reinforced and i picked it with a plastic water bottle."

Your lockpicking experience? What difference does it make if the door is wooden or glass? You're picking the bloody lock, not the door.
So you had a steel reinforced door during your youth. What were you, a drug dealer? And you could pick it with a plastic bottle? What stopped other people picking it so easily? Was it a slum area and you had nothing worth stealing? Make some fcking sense, man.

[Skaldy]

Originally posted by Dogbite:

Skaldy vomited:
"if it has a key and a key hole you can pretty much lockpick it."

Yeah, OK Raffles.

Skaldy also puked out this gem:
"From my lockpicking exprience i can say you can pretty much lock pick any wooden,glass door with screwdriver and wire or real tools like a real lockpick. When i got drunk during my youth and lock myself out of my house i use to pick my door which was steel reinforced and i picked it with a plastic water bottle."

Your lockpicking experience? What difference does it make if the door is wooden or glass? You're picking the bloody lock, not the door.
So you had a steel reinforced door during your youth. What were you, a drug dealer? And you could pick it with a plastic bottle? What stopped other people picking it so easily? Was it a slum area and you had nothing worth stealing? Make some fcking sense, man.

Material of the door matters. Wooden and glass door locks are easy to remove. Talk to a local locksmith. What stopped other people? Basic human decany, laws, logic, afraid of getting caught. I live in a university small town there literally nothing worth to steal from each other aside from cheap beer and lousy laptops. Here is your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense mate. I also live in a 3rd world country basicly everyone is poor cant afford anything here. Picking locks comes in 2 ways first one is removing the whole locking system which is painfull and takes about 30 mins other one is basic lockpicking with small wire or metals where you need to find the whole pressure points of the lock. Depends on the lock's teeth. You know keys have teeth right? You need to match the wire or whatever you use to push the small pistons within the lock at the same time then you turn the lock with a harder metal and it unlocks. I used to pick teachers drawers when i was a kid so yeah material really matters. Example steel and thick doors have more pistons than the usual wooden door locks. This goes on, and depends on how much money you have and how much you can afford. I lived in a farm when i was a kid and we pretty much had older locking systems.

[Skaldy]

here maybe your murrican brain can handle this one even internet knows how to do it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjuT_63Ioig

[bmitsoda]

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