this vs. kiarosoft's game dev story?

[Sgt. Waffles]

Looks pretty much the same but game dev story is cheaper. Why should I get this?

[Coffee]

AnythingQuiet původně napsal:

Both games are fun but it does seem Kairosoft allows you to do more with the employees like buying items (Redbull sort of drinks) to temporary boost their skills for a bit which was especially crucial during crunch times. Also, it was a lot more fun to make weird games in Game Dev Story since they relied a bit more on game stats then the genres. Plus, it was kinda neat to see what games your competitors were making, even though they used the same titles through-out the game.

Oh yeah, the employees in Game Dev Story would also approach you about adding something to the game your developing which showed initative on their part.

I was hoping Game Dev Tycoon would add more to the idea like maybe allow you to decorate the office to increase worker efficiency and maybe add more interaction with the employees so I can get to know them better. I do like that they add more events like needing to release a patch or making a choice about people who make fan versions of your games.

Agree that tycoon should have that. Always cool and that's how its would make it more unique.

[OldPeasant]

­­ 👽 εvαηεϟcεηcε 👽 ­­­ původně napsal:

Doubt a company would sue for plagiarism, when its what kairosoft did in the first place.

Game Dev Story isn't an original idea at all, games similar appeared before and even some was looking better than kairosoft.

Intent is important in courts, and the fact is that kiarosoft actually made an effort to uniquely make their game identifiable, whereas the developers of this game have obviously gone out of their way to fool people into thinking that it's the same as the kiarosoft game.

You literally cannot deny that this game is a clone - the developers haven't even bothered to develop their own UI style, let alone be creative enough to come up with their own name for the game...

[Coffee]

OldPeasant původně napsal:

­­ 👽 εvαηεϟcεηcε 👽 ­­­ původně napsal:

Doubt a company would sue for plagiarism, when its what kairosoft did in the first place.

Game Dev Story isn't an original idea at all, games similar appeared before and even some was looking better than kairosoft.

Intent is important in courts, and the fact is that kiarosoft actually made an effort to uniquely make their game identifiable, whereas the developers of this game have obviously gone out of their way to fool people into thinking that it's the same as the kiarosoft game.

You literally cannot deny that this game is a clone - the developers haven't even bothered to develop their own UI style, let alone be creative enough to come up with their own name for the game...

Kairosoft copied the UI of multiple game released before from 1980 to 1994.


Also, GDT UI is still very different than the GDS UI. Even more different than original game compared to GDS.

[Iantos]

Does anyone even know for certain that this Indie company was aware of Game Dev Story? Because I sure as hell wasn't until coming across this post. It'd be entirely easy to miss a 1997 Japanese game that was ported to mobile devices in 2010, and accidently make something similar. It happens all the time in many professions, songwriting for example. People are aware of the existance of another game with nearly the exact same mechanics and gameplay called GamBiz, right? That's from the late 90's to early 00's too, and as far as I am aware, had three entries to the series. Yet how many are aware of it?

[christpuncher]

Smokey the Bear původně napsal:

Why are people saying this is a rip off of Game Dev Story like it's a bad thing?

Because stealing is wrong.

[Coffee]

christpuncher původně napsal:

Smokey the Bear původně napsal:

Why are people saying this is a rip off of Game Dev Story like it's a bad thing?

Because stealing is wrong.

Game Dev story had nothing original in term of gameplay either!

[Person of Cardboard]

I find Game Dev Story to be far superior.

[Geneva Suggestion]

Having played both Game Dev Story and this game, I have to say I miss some things from GDS. For example, I think it's slightly ridiculous that a top-notch team of developers can get such low scores on a game for getting the balance between features wrong. A developer with a million skill and 25% dedication on an important topic does worse than an inexperienced developer going 100% (or rather 80%, as game mechanics dictate)? Game Dev Story would let you do awful game-genre combo, but if you hired Steve Jobs, Piccaso, Elton John and Bill Gates to work on it (or had good developers), all you got in return was a penalty whereas GDT seems to simply condem your game no matter how good of a job your developers do.

Seems like it has some bugs too. Processor usage is stuck at 100% on one core and it acts like the main game loop gets stuck when game employees have high skill levels.

As others have repeatedly said, too many elements are pulled seemingly directly out of GDS. Change up a few elements of gameplay. The R&D lab and Hardware lab are interesting additions, but I feel needed to play a larger role in the game as they seem to appear too late in the game and do too little to help GDT away from GDS.

The piracy stunt got you some fame out of the gate. How their next game is handled will, I think, set the future of Greenheart Games.

[It's Alex]

Sgt. Waffles původně napsal:

Looks pretty much the same but game dev story is cheaper. Why should I get this?

It's more or less the same but for windows. They did add some new stuff to it but I felt that Kairosoft game was more fun to play.

In this game they added a lot of stuff without explaining them properly for the players. Some parts are cool, like upgrading your office and working with publishers.

But I still enjoy Game Dev Story more than this. I like graphics in my mobile better than this 2d fullscreen. Seriously, how can you call graphics in this game as improvement? Game Dev Story characters are so nice looking, I hated all of my developers in this game.

Most of the people that defend Game Dev Tycoon never played Game Dev Story, or just liked their "anti piracy" propaganda.

If you have played Game Dev Story, it's bloody obvious that 75% of this game is copied and 25% is the extra content and some tweaks.

What really piss me off is that they never sold this game at any web stores other than their own that no one even knew about, and later blamed piracy for bad sales xD

Even the name is almost the same, it's like that War Z game trying to confuse people making them to belive that it's the next Day Z game and somehow connected to the movies/books.

Worth buying on sale if you are into this kind of games and can't find another one, like Game Dev Story that cost 3 times less and you can play on toilet.

So everything I said in one sentence:
"Uninspired art, copied game from the 90's with a little more content"

I'm waiting for their second game because I belive in the idea of this game, it's popular and the developers are trying to do their own thing on already proven concept but we need a game that explains all the new stuff much better. For example, does it help to add a wheel to a fighting game? Or is the game smart enough to detect this as waste of money? It's just something this game never explains. Why wouldn't I add a wheel if it somehow improves my released game score? But if I do, I feel stupid for doing so because IRL it would never improve anything.

We need this in the second game:
1. Explain everything better.
2. Improve graphics
3. Improve characters, I want to like people in my development house!
4. Better soundtrack
5. New stuff
6. Make pop-ups less annoying, less gameplay interrupting.

When this all is done, we can't call it a copy or clone anymore. It will be just a similar game like Duke Nukem/Quake/Doom are. And it will sell gold.

If you really want to sell DLC, sell cosmetic stuff like a new look of development house or more cool looking developers. Don't sell main content in DLC (not saying that they do but I see that people want to throw their money at them).

[Coffee]

tixe původně napsal:

Sgt. Waffles původně napsal:

Looks pretty much the same but game dev story is cheaper. Why should I get this?

It's more or less the same but for windows. They did add some new stuff to it but I felt that Kairosoft game was more fun to play.

In this game they added a lot of stuff without explaining them properly for the players. Some parts are cool, like upgrading your office and working with publishers.

But I still enjoy Game Dev Story more than this. I like graphics in my mobile better than this 2d fullscreen. Seriously, how can you call graphics in this game as improvement? Game Dev Story characters are so nice looking, I hated all of my developers in this game.

Most of the people that defend Game Dev Tycoon never played Game Dev Story, or just liked their "anti piracy" propaganda.

If you have played Game Dev Story, it's bloody obvious that 75% of this game is copied and 25% is the extra content and some tweaks.

What really piss me off is that they never sold this game at any web stores other than their own that no one even knew about, and later blamed piracy for bad sales xD

Even the name is almost the same, it's like that War Z game trying to confuse people making them to belive that it's the next Day Z game and somehow connected to the movies/books.

Worth buying on sale if you are into this kind of games and can't find another one, like Game Dev Story that cost 3 times less and you can play on toilet.

So everything I said in one sentence:
"Uninspired art, copied game from the 90's with a little more content"

I'm waiting for their second game because I belive in the idea of this game, it's popular and the developers are trying to do their own thing on already proven concept but we need a game that explains all the new stuff much better. For example, does it help to add a wheel to a fighting game? Or is the game smart enough to detect this as waste of money? It's just something this game never explains. Why wouldn't I add a wheel if it somehow improves my released game score? But if I do, I feel stupid for doing so because IRL it would never improve anything.

We need this in the second game:
1. Explain everything better.
2. Improve graphics
3. Improve characters, I want to like people in my development house!
4. Better soundtrack
5. New stuff
6. Make pop-ups less annoying, less gameplay interrupting.

When this all is done, we can't call it a copy or clone anymore. It will be just a similar game like Duke Nukem/Quake/Doom are. And it will sell gold.

If you really want to sell DLC, sell cosmetic stuff like a new look of development house or more cool looking developers. Don't sell content in DLC (not saying that they do but I see that people want to throw their money at them).

Still 100% of Game Dev Story is copied from a previous game not related to. Kairosoft at all

[It's Alex]

Nosferatu původně napsal:

You know, this whole thread is a big pile of dumb ass.

I had a game for the Commadore C64 that came off a magazine ( you used to get tapes with computer mags back then)

On that particular tape - shock - horror. Was a game that allowed you to start and run a business developing and distributing computer games. You could even choose what packaging you wanted, cardboard, plastic etc.. Your advertising methods, leveling up abilities and reinvesting profit.

THIS WAS A GAME FROM THE 80's


Children, they think they are the first to see something 'cool' Hint for you - it's been and gone before. It will come and go again. I could make multiple references to where Kairosoft has ripped ideas off games going back decades. I could ALSO and imho more importantly - point out where Kairosoft had writtent a decent formula (just like Zynga did once) and rinsed and repeated the EXACT SAME ENGINE over multiple different genres.

I played the life out of Game Dev Story. I also played the life out Grand Prix Story. Dungeon Village was a pretty neat idea too. After playing those, you begin to notice something - it's the same ficking thing over and over again.

Look at their games though - if you buy one you have pretty much played them all.

http://kairopark.jp/iphone/en/

Stop being such raving fanboys and actually listen to the crap you are speaking.

If you want to see a true rippoff - there are many out there, this being one of the more blatent, actually using content from the original.


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-05-10-chinese-world-of-tanks-clone-so-similar-it-allegedly-copies-even-historical-inaccuracies-and-fictional-tanks

However, to say Game Dev Tycoon is a ripp-off of Game Dev story is like saying Game Dev story ripped off Lemonade Tycoon.

Lemonade tycoon, was released 1 year before Game Dev Tycoon.

What you gonna do now ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥?


=P

Nopp, their games are different. Compare Astro Story to Game Dev Story, you should notice something different.

Games are played in a similar way but they are not just doing Call of Duty style releases every year.

[It's Alex]

☽ ­✖­ Луна ­✖­ ☾ původně napsal:

tixe původně napsal:

It's more or less the same but for windows. They did add some new stuff to it but I felt that Kairosoft game was more fun to play.

In this game they added a lot of stuff without explaining them properly for the players. Some parts are cool, like upgrading your office and working with publishers.

But I still enjoy Game Dev Story more than this. I like graphics in my mobile better than this 2d fullscreen. Seriously, how can you call graphics in this game as improvement? Game Dev Story characters are so nice looking, I hated all of my developers in this game.

Most of the people that defend Game Dev Tycoon never played Game Dev Story, or just liked their "anti piracy" propaganda.

If you have played Game Dev Story, it's bloody obvious that 75% of this game is copied and 25% is the extra content and some tweaks.

What really piss me off is that they never sold this game at any web stores other than their own that no one even knew about, and later blamed piracy for bad sales xD

Even the name is almost the same, it's like that War Z game trying to confuse people making them to belive that it's the next Day Z game and somehow connected to the movies/books.

Worth buying on sale if you are into this kind of games and can't find another one, like Game Dev Story that cost 3 times less and you can play on toilet.

So everything I said in one sentence:
"Uninspired art, copied game from the 90's with a little more content"

I'm waiting for their second game because I belive in the idea of this game, it's popular and the developers are trying to do their own thing on already proven concept but we need a game that explains all the new stuff much better. For example, does it help to add a wheel to a fighting game? Or is the game smart enough to detect this as waste of money? It's just something this game never explains. Why wouldn't I add a wheel if it somehow improves my released game score? But if I do, I feel stupid for doing so because IRL it would never improve anything.

We need this in the second game:
1. Explain everything better.
2. Improve graphics
3. Improve characters, I want to like people in my development house!
4. Better soundtrack
5. New stuff
6. Make pop-ups less annoying, less gameplay interrupting.

When this all is done, we can't call it a copy or clone anymore. It will be just a similar game like Duke Nukem/Quake/Doom are. And it will sell gold.

If you really want to sell DLC, sell cosmetic stuff like a new look of development house or more cool looking developers. Don't sell content in DLC (not saying that they do but I see that people want to throw their money at them).

Still 100% of Game Dev Story is copied from a previous game not related to. Kairosoft at all

Sorry, impossible to copy a game to 100% and earn money from it without permission.

Stop trolling.

In this industry we are fine with copying as long as the developers come with their own unique style and improve the game, in Game Dev Tycoon case it's on the line of being "okey" for me. The line is different for other people, but for me this game is exactly on the line and I can't say that's it's copy or original. Not enough copied, not enough unique. It's almost as the game isn't finished, maybe they run out of time/money.

[Coffee]

tixe původně napsal:

☽ ­✖­ Луна ­✖­ ☾ původně napsal:

Still 100% of Game Dev Story is copied from a previous game not related to. Kairosoft at all

Sorry, impossible to copy a game to 100% and earn money from it without permission.

Stop trolling.

In this industry we are fine with copying as long as the developers come with their own unique style and improve the game, in Game Dev Tycoon case it's on the line of being "okey" for me. The line is different for other people, but for me this game is exactly on the line and I can't say that's it's copy or original. Not enough copied, not enough unique. It's almost as the game isn't finished, maybe they run out of time/money.

You still got my point.


People think Game Dev story is innovative and unique when its nearly identical than a game release more than a decade ago.

[Hopper]

Requal původně napsal:

I was about to post the same thing when I saw this game and saw this thread already existed.
This game is a total rip off in my opinion.
And of course they added some stuff just to get rid of posts like these.
They didn't even have the creativity to give the game a total different name and also use Game Dev and replace Story with Tycoon.
It's just pathetic to use someones succes for your own without having done any proper thinking or work.

If they posted something like "Kairosoft's "Game Dev Story" has highly inspired me to create the same game with added option and release it to you PC users in English."

But nothing at all and thats just pathetic...
Been playing Kairosoft games for years and they deserve some credit for the awesome games they bring out.

They did give them credit... on thier site

[PocketCheese]

They are both very similar games, but I still think this game is worth a buy. From what I'm aware the Kairosoft one is only for tablets and phones? So it's good to have something similar that is PC based. And if I'm wrong it's still fun to play.