enemies knock me over in one hit, then im dead

[Graydient05]

this game's combat seems to come down to whoever hits first wins, and even then my character seems to always get taken out by the metal reinforced shovel, because it always knocks me over, rendering me entirely helpless.

[burjer]

Yeah the combat isn't great right now

[Someguyinhere]

Welcome to real life fencing. Initiative is very important. It's only video games where being super defensive and waiting for counters is the best strategy.

[miscellaneous unc]

Originally posted by Someguyinhere:

Welcome to real life fencing. Initiative is very important. It's only video games where being super defensive and waiting for counters is the best strategy.

Pretty much. The game is surprisingly realistic and following real-life examples will help you win.

Don't wanna get hit by a shovel to the head? Put your weapon against theirs, rush in close where they lose their advantage.

Don't want to get stabbed by a spear? Control their point and slide past it, then butcher them.

Don't want to get sliced and dice by a knife? Snipe their hand with your longer weapon.

Shield versus shield? Run in and bash them to the ground, execute them when they're helpless.

[miscellaneous unc]

You're likely not being aggressive enough while also not controlling your enemies weapons enough. Give the game a few more runs and you'll get the hang of it.

[Magical Horseman]

it takes practice. Honestly it doesn't hurt to ♥♥♥♥ with the damage sliders. Reducing the dam you take can help you get more swing practice in. Then when you think you're getting the hang of it crank the damage up. Rinse and repeat till you're fighting decently at the default. or ya know, just find the sweet spot for difficulty for yourself.

[Abe Tweakin']

Keep in mind this is not even the full, final version of the demo. It's a small team of what, maybe 5 or 6 people if my memory serves? That being said, yes, it's clunky yes it's in it's absolute infancy of a playable version. But try some of the tips mentioned above, I found all of those tips came to me naturally and I made it to the end of the demo at least once now, after many, many failed attempts that is. Also Scythe is OP, when you get that scythe, from then on maintain a good distance from enemies and keep your head on a constant swivel, leave no room for error and aim for weak points between armor and you should do fine then.

[Magical Horseman]

Solid advice. Though I think the scythe is over-rated. It does great dam, don't get me wrong but I hate trying to hit anything specific with it. I feel aiming it accurately beyond upper body and arm hits is a crap shoot. Personally I love half-swording. You can use it to block a weapon. Great for closing the distance with opponents that have a long reach but equally as good at blocking the stricks of most weapons. You can do it with hoes, 2 handed weapons, spears, the scythe and even the crap tier shovel thing and paddle.

[Onkel Funkel]

Originally posted by Magical Horseman:

Solid advice. Though I think the scythe is over-rated. It does great dam, don't get me wrong but I hate trying to hit anything specific with it. I feel aiming it accurately beyond upper body and arm hits is a crap shoot. Personally I love half-swording. You can use it to block a weapon. Great for closing the distance with opponents that have a long reach but equally as good at blocking the stricks of most weapons. You can do it with hoes, 2 handed weapons, spears, the scythe and even the crap tier shovel thing and paddle.

can you fight effectively with it? the few times i have tried using it i end up just using it to kinda saw at my enemy as i can't really seem to catch their swings with any amount of consistency.

[Magical Horseman]

Originally posted by Onkel Funkel:

Originally posted by Magical Horseman:

Solid advice. Though I think the scythe is over-rated. It does great dam, don't get me wrong but I hate trying to hit anything specific with it. I feel aiming it accurately beyond upper body and arm hits is a crap shoot. Personally I love half-swording. You can use it to block a weapon. Great for closing the distance with opponents that have a long reach but equally as good at blocking the stricks of most weapons. You can do it with hoes, 2 handed weapons, spears, the scythe and even the crap tier shovel thing and paddle.

can you fight effectively with it? the few times i have tried using it i end up just using it to kinda saw at my enemy as i can't really seem to catch their swings with any amount of consistency.

Ya, i've used it plenty with great effect. It takes some getting used to. My advice would be to try to think of it defensivly versus "i need to do this to close in". The main goal is to stop you from taking a hit. When I first started I aimed more for blocking their arm then their weapon, this could help you get the feel for it.

Second you want to use the full horizontal motions. The pommel to the face is effective, then you follow up with a swing from the buisness end. You could also use the pommel to stun them a bit then swing right at shoulder level for a throat slice. My MAIN advice though is to remember that swinging to the left is very much a stab, a real good one at that. You have to kind of adjust yourself a bit to the idea but your left hand side is a good kill zone. Hope any of this helps.

[SoggyBeans12]

skill issue unfortunately

[Maxwell Payne ©]

Skill issue.

Just grab 2 axes, then hold both lmb and rmb while moving your mouse side to side.

[BapSuey]

you can just turn the player damage down in settings and make the game impossible to lose

[Abe Tweakin']

Originally posted by Magical Horseman:

Originally posted by Onkel Funkel:

can you fight effectively with it? the few times i have tried using it i end up just using it to kinda saw at my enemy as i can't really seem to catch their swings with any amount of consistency.

Ya, i've used it plenty with great effect. It takes some getting used to. My advice would be to try to think of it defensivly versus "i need to do this to close in". The main goal is to stop you from taking a hit. When I first started I aimed more for blocking their arm then their weapon, this could help you get the feel for it.

Second you want to use the full horizontal motions. The pommel to the face is effective, then you follow up with a swing from the buisness end. You could also use the pommel to stun them a bit then swing right at shoulder level for a throat slice. My MAIN advice though is to remember that swinging to the left is very much a stab, a real good one at that. You have to kind of adjust yourself a bit to the idea but your left hand side is a good kill zone. Hope any of this helps.

Yes, all of this. Plus if you aim high enough you can get some pretty solid and consistent decapitations. I agree the scythe is OP and overrated, and it's just a great cheese weapon for anyone trying to see how far they can get.

[Magical Horseman]

Originally posted by Abraham Tweakin':

Originally posted by Magical Horseman:

Ya, i've used it plenty with great effect. It takes some getting used to. My advice would be to try to think of it defensivly versus "i need to do this to close in". The main goal is to stop you from taking a hit. When I first started I aimed more for blocking their arm then their weapon, this could help you get the feel for it.

Second you want to use the full horizontal motions. The pommel to the face is effective, then you follow up with a swing from the buisness end. You could also use the pommel to stun them a bit then swing right at shoulder level for a throat slice. My MAIN advice though is to remember that swinging to the left is very much a stab, a real good one at that. You have to kind of adjust yourself a bit to the idea but your left hand side is a good kill zone. Hope any of this helps.

Yes, all of this. Plus if you aim high enough you can get some pretty solid and consistent decapitations. I agree the scythe is OP and overrated, and it's just a great cheese weapon for anyone trying to see how far they can get.

First i'm putting an explanation of how to do that kinda thing, for ops sake. If you pull your half-sworded spear to the top right, As high as you can go you have a pretty effective stab zone at the head,neck and upper chest level. You have to get used to only swinging it a bit to the left, just enough where it starts to turn slightly, then pull it back and repeat.

yeah decapitations are very possible with half-sworded. Nothing like blocking a swing/getting past their defense as you close in then end it with a clean decapitation. All in a nice and quick motion .Getting a good stab in the head or neck after parrying is also awesome feeling. ♥♥♥♥ feels like anime bs sometimes but it's so great.

You can also get pretty consistant decaps with other weapons if you get used to doing clean horizontal stricks at about shoulder level. As soon as you realize you don't need to do super fast swings and infact a low mouse sensetivity is what ya want, you can start being more accurate. You can start doing cool ♥♥♥♥ like hitting an npc's arm to stop their swing or at least disrupt it enough. I've done that just to close then gap then bring out a dagger with my spare hand to just start stabbin the ♥♥♥♥ outta'em.

[Graydient05]

Originally posted by Maxwell ©:

Skill issue.

Just grab 2 axes, then hold both lmb and rmb while moving your mouse side to side.

yes I have done that, got well past scythe man, doesnt change the fact the combat is unbalanced, and has aspects that don't exactly contribute to the "fun" factor