Im thirty hours into this game and they made it WOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ketrub]

I want a refund??? How do i refund this game i family shared it

[allknowingeel]

How?

[Timo654]

OP is just a troll, there's nothing wrong with this localisation.

[allknowingeel]

Originally posted by Timo654:

OP is just a troll, there's nothing wrong with this localisation.

I know, but I want to see his 'proof', it should be a good laugh.

[Papagaio sem asa]

if you mean the Saber being a girl thing, that was already part of the story in the original and the reasoning was that the game was originally supposed to be a love triangle story between Saber (male), Gilg. (male) and Shirou (female), but the producers decided it would make for a better story to gender swap Saber and Shirou such that you were fighting with Saber against a Gilg. that was obsessed with her.

It wasn't anything woke, though I can see how the removal of the sex scenes remove context as to why they gender swapped those characters (Saber, mostly) for this game...

[ketrub]

quoting Tousaka from this woke localizatoin..l. stop MAINSPLANING!!!!!

[Unknownuta]

Originally posted by Papagaio sem asa:

if you mean the Saber being a girl thing, that was already part of the story in the original and the reasoning was that the game was originally supposed to be a love triangle story between Saber (male), Gilg. (male) and Shirou (female), but the producers decided it would make for a better story to gender swap Saber and Shirou such that you were fighting with Saber against a Gilg. that was obsessed with her.

It wasn't anything woke, though I can see how the removal of the sex scenes remove context as to why they gender swapped those characters (Saber, mostly) for this game...

I dont think thats what he meant

[Gordon Ramsay]

Originally posted by ketrub:

quoting Tousaka from this woke localizatoin..l. stop MAINSPLANING!!!!!

if there really is a dialogue like that in the game, we riot!

[allknowingeel]

Originally posted by Gordon Ramsay:

Originally posted by ketrub:

quoting Tousaka from this woke localizatoin..l. stop MAINSPLANING!!!!!

if there really is a dialogue like that in the game, we riot!

Wasn't something like that in the original?

[Gordon Ramsay]

Originally posted by allknowingeel:

Originally posted by Gordon Ramsay:

if there really is a dialogue like that in the game, we riot!

Wasn't something like that in the original?

to be fair there's never been fate official english version, we only had fan translations until now, the remastered is the first ever english official

now we could argue that some japanese could be translated like that but is a bit a of reach, there is only some lines where Rin belittles shirou but on the japanese lenguage you can do that way more respectfully than english

as for the fan translations, no, there never was such a line and I've been reading fate since the first release, the one with no voice acting just yet

my japanese is not that fluid, but again, to translate it like that you would need to be reaching a bit

[danmaku]

Tohsaka uses the term mansplaining during UBW. haven't read HF yet. they also got rid of Shirou's hilarious hatred of alarm clocks

[Yarchonis Marfedelom]

Originally posted by danmaku:

Tohsaka uses the term mansplaining during UBW. haven't read HF yet. they also got rid of Shirou's hilarious hatred of alarm clocks

I only remember Tohsaka hating alarm clocks.

[Wakame]

Originally posted by Yarchonis Marfedelom:

Originally posted by danmaku:

Tohsaka uses the term mansplaining during UBW. haven't read HF yet. they also got rid of Shirou's hilarious hatred of alarm clocks

I only remember Tohsaka hating alarm clocks.

I only remember Tohsaka hating British cuisine (Hollow Ataraxia joke).

[Tigerbarn]

If anything Artoria was getting dogged on so hard by Shirou & Gilgamesh, when she actually shut them down as the damn Once n' Future King, I was cheering. I don't see no wokeness here.

[Tigerbarn]

Originally posted by allknowingeel:

Originally posted by Tigerbarn:

If anything Artoria was getting dogged on so hard by Shirou & Gilgamesh, when she actually shut them down as the damn Once n' Future King, I was cheering. I don't see no wokeness here.

That was always in the original that was released 20 years ago anyway.

I know, I'm merely pointing out that this game is anything but woke. If anything you could make a more believable argument that this game is sexist, because at a first glance basis, it can be that way.

[Tigerbarn]

Originally posted by allknowingeel:

Originally posted by Tigerbarn:

I know, I'm merely pointing out that this game is anything but woke. If anything you could make a more believable argument that this game is sexist, because at a first glance basis, it can be that way.

I imagine so many people coming into this game, finding out who Saber is, and then when they realise she's a Gender bend, they would say woke. For turning a male figure into a female figure for 'inclusiveness' or something.

Don't really see where the percieved sexism would be. I mean the female characters are actually far more prepared and knowledgeable than Shirou, at least 90% of them are. Rin especially.

Also as a side note, I started with the anime and hated Rin in it. Then I read her route in the vn, and loved her character there. I just felt like mentioning this.

Shirou constantly gets mad at Artoria for fighting on his behalf, and uses the fact that she's a woman as an excuse. Gilgamesh straight up views her as an object, and uses sexist remarks to mock her constantly, even at her lowest points. Now obviously this is just Shirou having poor wording problems, and Gilgamesh being a clear villain, but she really doesn't clap that back all very often, so it looks kinda bad. (Though when she does, she absolutely annihilates them, and I'm all there for it).

In any case, the story isn't sexist, but I could see why it could be viewed that way. On the other hand, I don't see any wokeness besides her being a genderbend. But like I said, she gets dogged on a lot, both verbally & physically due to the plot. Regardless of what you think of the genderbend, she's more than earned her way.