Always Online is going to cost sales!

[Hexblood]

I, for one, will not knowingly buy games that are primarily single-player and still require an online connection. As soon as I saw that was the case for this game I immediately removed my wishlist selection.

I know I am not alone in this sentiment. Please fix this and I will look forward to this game once again.

[GraveTrail]

Yeah Ii'm sure this will cripple sales of a game a billion years old and has already broke sales records over and over.

[Zook']

Same here.

[hexaae]

I was going to buy it, then I read about the always online

[DescipleOfZen]

cmd /c "set steamdeck=1 && %command%"

[Hexblood]

Originally posted by DescipleOfZen:

cmd /c "set steamdeck=1 && %command%"

And what if you are on PC not Deck. I saw in another thread it was patched for Deck but no news on PC.

This is a PS1 title that had no internet connectivity. WHY THE HELL DID YOU PUT IT ON NOW!?!?!?

[Lord Wholesome]

As nonsensical as it might seem to have it as a requirement (and trust me, I agree with you), Most of the reason for this is to try and prevent piracy and copyright infringement of their works.

So basically it's for verification, if you will. Different countries have different penalties for piracy, some have none. Therefore this is a somewhat easy way for devs to combat that, so there's that to consider.

Until new anti-piracy measures are invented that are less visible to the naked eye, you can pretty much expect to see this being a thing in plenty games for some time to come.

[Hexblood]

"The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."

By going to this extreme to maximize control of your IP you are inviting people to go ahead with hacking and pirating. I am on a fixed income. Every now and then I have to suspend my internet service for a month or 2 for personal reasons. Also what happens when the company goes to cut costs and wants to cut off this checking? If they do not patch the game to operate without the connection then the users lose a game they have payed for.

This is not an MMO that can garner subscription money to support the servers needed for this live connection. The money will be made of unit sales. The more copies they sell the more money they make. This forum has lots of ppl voicing the same opinion as me. As long as it requires online they will not sell as many units.

A big part of the market interested in this title are from my generation, who owned this game in our younger days. (Hell I still got my disc and a working PSX and a PS2. Yet I would still by a good PC port today.) We value OWNING our media. We will not knowingly buy something who's ownership is at the whim of the company.

This is part of the problem with the modern consumer market. Online services and console wars are ruining the PC gaming market. Big business wants to be able to pull the plug on a title later on so you are forced to buy the next port of it when it comes out. Just like they are able to do with consoles.

The problem with the PC market is that there are often people (like me) who are not able to update our PCs every few years. So I want to be able to keep playing my games for years to come... ON MY OWN TERMS.

Activision/Blizard is only one step below EA. I already do not willingly give any sales to EA as they are a ♥♥♥♥ company, who treat their employees like crap, and do not care about the consumer; only how much they can squeeze out of their wallets. With this move I will be seriously considering doing the same with Acti-zard.

[DescipleOfZen]

Originally posted by Hexblood:

Originally posted by DescipleOfZen:

cmd /c "set steamdeck=1 && %command%"

And what if you are on PC not Deck. I saw in another thread it was patched for Deck but no news on PC.

This is a PS1 title that had no internet connectivity. WHY THE HELL DID YOU PUT IT ON NOW!?!?!?

This command is for PC.

[Hexblood]

Ah, OK. Thanks for that then. Is there a console or something to open to enter it? For other people that might want to know sake. I still will not buy the game on principle of I do not approve of this practice by a dev.

[NormireX]

Originally posted by Lord Wholesome:

As nonsensical as it might seem to have it as a requirement (and trust me, I agree with you), Most of the reason for this is to try and prevent piracy and copyright infringement of their works.

So basically it's for verification, if you will. Different countries have different penalties for piracy, some have none. Therefore this is a somewhat easy way for devs to combat that, so there's that to consider.

Until new anti-piracy measures are invented that are less visible to the naked eye, you can pretty much expect to see this being a thing in plenty games for some time to come.

The piracy argument is bs and always has been for any game that has used it. People that would pirate aren't going to buy the game either way. Online only is not increasing sales at all, if anything they are losing far more sales to legit customers than there are total pirates.

[Arokhantos]

https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Tony_Hawk%27s_Pro_Skater_1_%2B_2#Play_offline

Steamdeck can do it but appearntly all PC's xcan do it according to my link

[E-Commerce Meatualization Inc]

I keep checking the discussions here to see if it's still online only because i'm done with single player games that require connection to servers/login. Guess i'll be sticking to OG THPS for a while.

[Woelkchen]

Originally posted by Bean Bag Chairist:

I keep checking the discussions here to see if it's still online only because i'm done with single player games that require connection to servers/login. Guess i'll be sticking to OG THPS for a while.

Again: You can make the game think it runs on Steam Deck with the aforementioned launch option and then it works offline.

[Arokhantos]

Originally posted by Woelkchen:

Originally posted by Bean Bag Chairist:

I keep checking the discussions here to see if it's still online only because i'm done with single player games that require connection to servers/login. Guess i'll be sticking to OG THPS for a while.

Again: You can make the game think it runs on Steam Deck with the aforementioned launch option and then it works offline.

The more reason they should just add offline mode, hopefully Microsoft can push something.

[Hexblood]

Originally posted by Woelkchen:

Again: You can make the game think it runs on Steam Deck with the aforementioned launch option and then it works offline.

The point is not that there is a "work around." The point is that this practice is distasteful. Companies are doing this so that they can pull the plug on the check later so you are forced to buy the next remake or what ever if you want to keep playing the game. Only the biggest, greediest companies are doing this type of thing.

They can claim copy protection till the cows come home; I still will not believe it. These games come from a console that had 0 internet connectivity. Why do it now. Smart people will hit them in the pocketbook and not support this.