Lets Talk About Why Theif Sucks so Much....

[Geldzakken™]

I got this game for 10$ and its hardly worth even that, who lost their job over this? please tell me someone got fired for releasing this game.

[cyberwiz97]

Let's not. Not again! Please?

[Geldzakken™]

its like they hit a magic realease button 6 months early that game is garbage compared to dishonored

[Geldzakken™]

ok if you want some constructive ♥♥♥♥, I'll give you some. First off, the movement through the levels is cluttered and cramped, leaving little room for deviation or creative stealth movement such as we see in dishonored. I feel its ok to compare those two games since they are played very similarily. second, the story is bland and has no character developement and a crappy thrown together plot. nothing worth giving a pullitzer prize to. third, the character's movement through the levels is clumsy and awkward with none of the finess in dishonored. this "Master Thief" is a petty criminal with the grace of an Ox with both its left legs sliced off. just some miscelanious things: lip syncing is terrible, cant jump off ledges, stealth system is poorly designed, characters are bland, graphics are mediocre (even on my PC with settings on maximum) i didnt want to continue with the game but felt i had spent 10 $ on it so might as well play. Lastly is the combat. who taught this guy to fight? he has one cudgel for hand to hand combat an i might as well be giving these guys a high five! honestly its like im role playing a twelve year old street rat in this game. combat situations usually end in death for the player becasue holy crap this guy just cant hit! thats my critisism take it and run.

[Airk]

Originally posted by Mr. Moneybags:

ok if you want some constructive ♥♥♥♥, I'll give you some. First off, the movement through the levels is cluttered and cramped, leaving little room for deviation or creative stealth movement such as we see in dishonored. I feel its ok to compare those two games since they are played very similarily. second, the story is bland and has no character developement and a crappy thrown together plot. nothing worth giving a pullitzer prize to. third, the character's movement through the levels is clumsy and awkward with none of the finess in dishonored. this "Master Thief" is a petty criminal with the grace of an Ox with both its left legs sliced off. just some miscelanious things: lip syncing is terrible, cant jump off ledges, stealth system is poorly designed, characters are bland, graphics are mediocre (even on my PC with settings on maximum) i didnt want to continue with the game but felt i had spent 10 $ on it so might as well play. Lastly is the combat. who taught this guy to fight? he has one cudgel for hand to hand combat an i might as well be giving these guys a high five! honestly its like im role playing a twelve year old street rat in this game. combat situations usually end in death for the player becasue holy crap this guy just cant hit! thats my critisism take it and run.

LOL funny and somewhat true.
its really not terrible though, its certainly can be immersive, and 1 play through even with all cutscenes skipped, even if you pursue no secrets at all, should last atleast 6- 8 hours.
im glad you atleast hate it on its own merits and dont just constantly compare it to the originals as if they hold up any better in 2014.

[ᏦᏂᎯᏒᏂᎯ乙]

I am looking forward, that someone with a higher steam level and and open profile comes out of the cover and start such a "discussion". I am becoming sick of these level 0 steamaccountcopycowards. You will be my guest.

[Cutlass Jack]

Originally posted by Kharhaz:

I am looking forward, that someone with a higher steam level and and open profile comes out of the cover and start such a "discussion". I am becoming sick of these level 0 steamaccountcopycowards. You will be my guest. :friendship:

At least this one seems to actually own the game. That's almost refreshing! :D

[Geldzakken™]

Originally posted by eisberg:

Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:

At least this one seems to actually own the game. That's almost refreshing! :D

haha yeah. At least this one hates it based on its own merits and not the old games. I disagree with his opinion through.

so you think this game is a masterpeice? i dont see how judging just this game as a standalone can result in a psositive review

[Rockhead Gaz]

Originally posted by Mr. Moneybags:

Originally posted by eisberg:

haha yeah. At least this one hates it based on its own merits and not the old games. I disagree with his opinion through.

so you think this game is a masterpeice? i dont see how judging just this game as a standalone can result in a psositive review

Because people are allowed to have different opinions?

[Geldzakken™]

Ill grant you that its challenging and fun in the respect that on master its almost impossible, but Im just playing this directly after having finnished dishonored and as i said those games are comprable, and dishonored is just so much....better. the graphics are more well adjusted, the stealth system is a lot more developed, the movement and controls are smoother, and the plot line was engaging. maybe im not being completely objective but theif 2014 just doesnt compete as a stealth game for me at least.

[KILLENMACHINE75]

Originally posted by Mr. Moneybags:

ok if you want some constructive ♥♥♥♥, I'll give you some. First off, the movement through the levels is cluttered and cramped, leaving little room for deviation or creative stealth movement such as we see in dishonored. I feel its ok to compare those two games since they are played very similarily. second, the story is bland and has no character developement and a crappy thrown together plot. nothing worth giving a pullitzer prize to. third, the character's movement through the levels is clumsy and awkward with none of the finess in dishonored. this "Master Thief" is a petty criminal with the grace of an Ox with both its left legs sliced off. just some miscelanious things: lip syncing is terrible, cant jump off ledges, stealth system is poorly designed, characters are bland, graphics are mediocre (even on my PC with settings on maximum) i didnt want to continue with the game but felt i had spent 10 $ on it so might as well play. Lastly is the combat. who taught this guy to fight? he has one cudgel for hand to hand combat an i might as well be giving these guys a high five! honestly its like im role playing a twelve year old street rat in this game. combat situations usually end in death for the player becasue holy crap this guy just cant hit! thats my critisism take it and run.

This game is not about fighting, this whole game is stealth. Even in the older ones you would be made to hide in the shadows because this isnt a run around and stab people kind of game, it is a hide in the shadows and be as quiet as a field mouse kind of game. And for the graphics who really cares if you want to push it to 1080 p be my guest i don't feel like slowly destroying my retnas.

[ᏦᏂᎯᏒᏂᎯ乙]

Originally posted by Mr. Moneybags:

Originally posted by eisberg:

haha yeah. At least this one hates it based on its own merits and not the old games. I disagree with his opinion through.

so you think this game is a masterpeice? i dont see how judging just this game as a standalone can result in a psositive review

masterpeice? who wrote something about a masterpeice? Theif is a masterpeice?

[Airk]

dishonored IS better
i wont argue about that.
but this game is certainly not BAD. and isnt deserving of 1 tenth of the hate it garners.
when i first started playing it it all seemed very linear and boxed in.
after a few chapters and really learning what to look for and how to get around, i find that its actually NOT linear, and there are all kinds of paths and different ways of going about stuff.

[Paapuli]

Your problem is that you've never had to hide once in your life.
You've never been in a dark school after closing hours.
You've never been hiding in the dark city streets running for your life or possessions.

If you had. You would have noticed that you don't glide above the ground like a hovercraft.
Which you definately don't in Thief.

If you had. You would notice that if someone you don't want to, would have you caught.
Would beat you up or get you into serious trouble.
Which you definately do in Thief. Since you're incapable of running as seems according to your tragic little review where you can't fight off your "enemies".

Have you ever been on the roof of an over 5 meter building and jumped down?
You should try it.
You'd notice that the landing wasn't smooth. Or that you didn't quite manage to run off instantly if you tried. You wouln't jump down, you would propably try and teleport down because you can.

Dishonored graphics wise is cartoony.
You like cartoons, according to you behavior towards Thief and Dishonored
That's why you're easily set off by Thief's more realistic and darker graphics.

Your definition of stealth is that as long as you don't want to be seen. You won't be.
You can always teleport up to a rooftop from anywhere. Or across the street. Or if nothing else is left. You can simply dive into the horrible guard and possess him and get into safety as said guard. Or simply whip your wrist and see him get knocked through your incredible brutal strength and guts.

Which isn't realistic and can't be called true subtlety.
All this is impossible in Thief. You're no one special in Thief, weaker than your average guard.
You have to stay in the dark corners and shadows at all times because the guards are more realistic and even flip 360 degrees just to make sure no ones behind them while patrolling.
this pisses you off. To be no one special.

You're propably one of those guys that whine about Outlast and Amnesia.
"This game sucks so bad you can't beat the crap out of the enemy who the ♥♥♥♥ plays this."

But yes. You're right. Battlefield 3 must suck for those that play Call of Duty.
Must suck to be you coming straight from a Ballerina Ninja Commando Gray Fox game to a mediocre sneakthief game.

[ᏦᏂᎯᏒᏂᎯ乙]

You should copy this Paapuli. And you could paste it every time someone comes forward with such a discussion again. It might be very often...maybe again while the next sale is up again.

[Geldzakken™]

Originally posted by Paapuli:

Your problem is that you've never had to hide once in your life.
You've never been in a dark school after closing hours.
You've never been hiding in the dark city streets running for your life or possessions.

If you had. You would have noticed that you don't glide above the ground like a hovercraft.
Which you definately don't in Thief.

If you had. You would notice that if someone you don't want to, would have you caught.
Would beat you up or get you into serious trouble.
Which you definately do in Thief. Since you're incapable of running as seems according to your tragic little review where you can't fight off your "enemies".

Have you ever been on the roof of an over 5 meter building and jumped down?
You should try it.
You'd notice that the landing wasn't smooth. Or that you didn't quite manage to run off instantly if you tried. You wouln't jump down, you would propably try and teleport down because you can.

Dishonored graphics wise is cartoony.
You like cartoons, according to you behavior towards Thief and Dishonored
That's why you're easily set off by Thief's more realistic and darker graphics.

Your definition of stealth is that as long as you don't want to be seen. You won't be.
You can always teleport up to a rooftop from anywhere. Or across the street. Or if nothing else is left. You can simply dive into the horrible guard and possess him and get into safety as said guard. Or simply whip your wrist and see him get knocked through your incredible brutal strength and guts.

Which isn't realistic and can't be called true subtlety.
All this is impossible in Thief. You're no one special in Thief, weaker than your average guard.
You have to stay in the dark corners and shadows at all times because the guards are more realistic and even flip 360 degrees just to make sure no ones behind them while patrolling.
this pisses you off. To be no one special.

You're propably one of those guys that whine about Outlast and Amnesia.
"This game sucks so bad you can't beat the crap out of the enemy who the ♥♥♥♥ plays this."

But yes. You're right. Battlefield 3 must suck for those that play Call of Duty.
Must suck to be you coming straight from a Ballerina Ninja Commando Gray Fox game to a mediocre sneakthief game.

youre right maybe i do like playing as "someone special" its a videogame and the whole point of those is to act like someone else who has exciting abilitities,tasks, etc. i see your point of view but dont agree that Garrett Master Thief being a skinny wimpy dude makes it a fun game. realistic maybe but not fun.