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CongoKim 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 3:07
why preorder dlc is not really exclusive?
i feel sad when a preorder bouns is not exclusive to those who preordered like me.I believe i am not the only one who is afraid that dlc is exclusive and your game will not complete if you miss the preorder. With this reason, i preordered. I remembered clearly it said: the bank heist dlc is exclusive and will not be sold when the game release. In some period,the store page even posted 'last chance to get it'. how can the developer play some words game, and trick the customers to preorder? is it because the game turns out not as good as predicted, and developers try to squeeze the money from the game as much as possible in order to cover the cost?

Edit: some of you misunderstand my meaning about this discussion. My meaning is i DO NOT hate preorder bonus coming back to store when the game releases. But their promotion method make me feel unconfortable. These days quite a lot of publishers keep using exclusive , unique, limited time, only available these ambigious worlds to make those gamers who are afraid of not being able to get a complete game if missing preordering preorder.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THIS PROMOTION WAYS IS NOT DECENT, AND HOPE STOP USING THOSE AMBIGIOUS WORDS AND MAKE IT CLEAR WHEN SELLING.

I respect the developer of payday2, they said CLEARLY in the store that the preorder bonus will not be available when the game released
I also respect EA company although some of the steam gamers do not like it. It never has preorder bonus to most of its game.

These are something about developers confidence of making a great game.And they lack of socalled brave like payday developers when announcing that the DLC is really exclusive.

最後修改者:CongoKim; 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 6:56
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I hear you man, but its the BS ploys of publishers to get as much money in before the actual release and then make extra money.

The only game I have seen so far that was true to their word about pre-order DLC being exclusive is PayDay 2.

They had a pre-order bonus of a loot bag and they have not made that or the "collector's edtion" DLC public.

Every other game I have seen has released their pre-order DLC for purchase at some point.

Don't make the BS pre-order DLC your deciding factor for pre-ordering a game.

And if in the ridiculously low chance that it doesn't get released a nice little download online will unlock it because its usually on disk, or it will be purchasable at some point.
CongoKim 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 3:22 
well, i can not blame it to much if a developer said nothing about the preorder bonus, and put it on the store when the game releases. But as to this game, the developers continuously used really tricky words, and announcements to make us believe the dlc is exclusive. I seldom blame some one, but i still think it is a matter of honesty....
I hear you man, but its the BS ploys of publishers to get as much money in before the actual release and then make extra money.

The only game I have seen so far that was true to their word about pre-order DLC being exclusive is PayDay 2.

They had a pre-order bonus of a loot bag and they have not made that or the "collector's edtion" DLC public.

Every other game I have seen has released their pre-order DLC for purchase at some point.

Don't make the BS pre-order DLC your deciding factor for pre-ordering a game.

And if in the ridiculously low chance that it doesn't get released a nice little download online will unlock it because its usually on disk, or it will be purchasable at some point.
最後修改者:CongoKim; 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 3:23
Yeah Buddy 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 3:24 
Yeah WTF, i hate when they do that
Like I said, I'm not blaming anyone. Just giving my opinion.

I have a lot of games and some were pre-ordered and some wheren't.

A lot of the games get pushed that if you pre-order or buy early you will get some sort of exclusive content for it.

Last time I checked what exclusive was, there publishers aren't holding their word to it.

I don't care really just going on with the conversation, I pre-ordered maybe 4 months ago with a 30% off so I'm happy.
nekov4ego 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 3:58 
When you pre-order, you receive the mission as a free bonus. If you don't pre-order, you have to pay for the extra mission.

Why should what other people have or don't have make difference to you? Have fun with your mission, you have it as a bonus. Other people can buy it and have fun as well. What's sad about that?

That's on your end. On the publisher's end, the bonus content offer makes the preorder more attractive to users and that increases a chance of more preorders and sales. On the developer's side, having worked on an exclusive mission means a very small percentage of the players will enjoy and appreciate it. When you make it available, more people see your work.
Moon Punisher 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 5:03 
Nah , 99% of the time the devs sell those pre order bonus later on AAA titles.

Only indy devs would actually not sell their pre order bonus.
Draig 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 5:36 
So unlucky on not being a special snowflake, those who didn't pre-order (I did btw) have to pay a bit extra to get an extra mission.So what.
How this is a bad thing I will never understand, you just sound selfish to me.
CongoKim 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 5:48 
well, what i am annoying is not the preorder bonus at all(i have preorder lots of games on steam and saw them put it on store later, and i am not angry), but they a bit like cheating us when selling, they make us believe that dlc would not be sold after the game release first, and obey their promise later. actuallyit is this promotion method or action made me a bit annoying. it is just not decent..., also, for example, i am playing south park, the publisher did not say the preorder dlc won't be sold later or exclusive, so i do not care if it will be sold later, but this is a bit different...
引用自 Draig
So unlucky on not being a special snowflake, those who didn't pre-order (I did btw) have to pay a bit extra to get an extra mission.So what.
How this is a bad thing I will never understand, you just sound selfish to me.
最後修改者:CongoKim; 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 5:51
Coldshadow 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 5:58 
I never pre-order. Last game I did was Homefront... I'll leave it at that.:cgrazz:
Well with PC titles I'll pre-order, quite a few sites offer good discounts so I'll bite that.
Bad Whippet 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 6:16 
I actually like the way the DLC has been given to pre-orderers but is still buyable for everyone else. That's good enough for me. I got it free, but I would rather everyone had access to it than have it as a permanent exclusive.

I hate when DLC is permanently exclusive. It's fine if it's temporarily exclusive (Dishonored released all the pre-order goodies in a separate, buyable DLC pack many months after the game's release - which is fine), but to permanently deny other people who also buy the game is a bit rubbish. It can be argued that late buyers of Thief are taking a worse risk than us pre-orderers because of all the not so great reviews it's received.
最後修改者:Bad Whippet; 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 6:18
yusupov 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 6:19 
you think b/c you were brazen enough to pre-order a game you should get an entire ingame level exclusive to yourself?? it should be made available to everyone. if you shd be mad about anythign its the fact that it was available AFTER pre-order. so pre-order ppl got their tiny discount but no free dlc.

edit - basically what mr whippet said
最後修改者:yusupov; 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 6:20
CongoKim 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 6:22 
please take a detailed look about what i am posting and my reply, i hope you can understand what my real meaning of this discussion. these days the publishers keep using exclusive, only available, limit time these ambigous words to push their sale, and that's what i want to blame about
引用自 yusupov
you think b/c you were brazen enough to pre-order a game you should get an entire ingame level exclusive to yourself?? it should be made available to everyone. if you shd be mad about anythign its the fact that it was available AFTER pre-order. so pre-order ppl got their tiny discount but no free dlc.

edit - basically what mr whippet said
最後修改者:CongoKim; 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 6:32
yusupov 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 6:25 
well i agree with you that its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ marketing tactic to leave it up in the air as to whether or not pre-order content will be released later, but i certainly don't understand why you'd be 'sad' that its available for purchase to latecomers
Moon Punisher 2014 年 3 月 7 日 下午 6:27 
引用自 BadWhippet
It can be argued that late buyers of Thief are taking a worse risk than us pre-orderers because of all the not so great reviews it's received.

This makes no sense.

How can you argue that?

We got this game with 0 reviews/videos ...

They get to check those and decide for themselves.

I dont regret buying this game , but there is no way buying it after launch , where all the info is avaiable , is more of a risk than getting the pre order.
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