So they decided not to use Stephen cause he can't do stunts

[frostdiamond]

What a wagon load of sheep dumping. They probably cheaped out and didn't want to pay Russell the money he deserves for doing such a wonderful Garrett job.

Anyway, the point of this thread is---------are they using any other old voice actors? What about Benny? Or those taffing guards? Please don't give me that "oh the Benny voice actor can't walk half drunk with a bottle in his hands, so we axed him and hired a homeless off the back alley instead".

^^^Anyone see my point above?

It's not because Russell can't do stunts. It's because of some dirty / deceptive / lame reason that they are too embarrassed to tell.

[Mr JC Denton in Da Fresh]

Do you know Benny was ALSO voiced by Stephen Russell? With him gone, Benny is unlikely to return as well. This game is going to feel so different without Stephen Russell.

[Dion]

New games use mocap. Russel is not trained for this. Therefore someone with experience does get the job. Just like everywhere else in the world. Do you see mechanics being doctors? It does suck. But it is what it is. Also Thief is not the first game to do this.

[frostdiamond]

Nguyên văn bởi khaosnewrise25:

Do you know Benny was ALSO voiced by Stephen Russell? With him gone, Benny is unlikely to return as well. This game is going to feel so different without Stephen Russell.

No ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ way?! LOL then I'm HUGELY impressed by Ressell, cause I couldn't tell Benny was Garratt's cousin lol.

[Staemboat]

Hey man it's a reboot, hell even if its just a new game in the series it should be acceptable to change voice actor. I ain't mad about kiefer sutherland voicing snake in MGS V either

[sounds odd]

I've got a bit of experience with adr and general sound design. It's a shame that Russel isn't up the stunts but as that's the case they probably made the right decision. It would be a big ask to mix his dialog with another actor doing the physical stuff and get it sounding natural. Chances are there'd be more complaints about that after the release than there are now.

Also I think one of the reasons we all fondly remember Stephen Russell is beacuse the originals were made in a time when voice acting in games was utterly shocking. He stood out from the crowd then but the collective quality has improved so much in recent years that I don't think we should worry too much about this new guy.

[Ritchey#228471]

None the less emotions are connected with the voices we are used to, from the past games and those were emotions we enjoyed. That is why we are craving for re-experiencing those voices that are connected with emotions, that we used to feel. We should give the new voice actor a chance though.

Another example of that evolution is the recent Splinter Cell. Even though Michael Ironside does propably have the best voice in the world, his replacement did a pretty decent job too!

[Morgan]

Nguyên văn bởi sounds odd:

I've got a bit of experience with adr and general sound design. It's a shame that Russel isn't up the stunts but as that's the case they probably made the right decision. It would be a big ask to mix his dialog with another actor doing the physical stuff and get it sounding natural. Chances are there'd be more complaints about that after the release than there are now.

Also I think one of the reasons we all fondly remember Stephen Russell is beacuse the originals were made in a time when voice acting in games was utterly shocking. He stood out from the crowd then but the collective quality has improved so much in recent years that I don't think we should worry too much about this new guy.

Not to disrespect your experience but there are plenty of examples of good voice acting and lip syncing in situations where different or no motion capture took place. The same is true in animated TV and film. As for voice acting being generally shocking back in 1998. I think that may well be a case of you forgetting a lot of other games. Even before 98 there were plenty of titles with good and excellent voice acting. Of the top of my head, Beneath a Steel Sky, Fallout, Dark Forces 2 , Gabriel Knight, Grim Fandango and The Dig.

For me Stephen Russell is Garrett. I’m not saying that the new bloke isn’t any good. He’s just not Stephen Russell and doesn’t quit hit the same tone of cynical sarcasm.

[historiainferro]

Stephen is also Father Karras, and a few other minor characters over the course of the series. A very talented man, to say the least.

[Garudin]

Nguyên văn bởi Staemboat:

Hey man it's a reboot, hell even if its just a new game in the series it should be acceptable to change voice actor. I ain't mad about kiefer sutherland voicing snake in MGS V either

I think most resonable people wouldn't be upset over changes because of they want to recreate the character.

My problem at least is from them basically choosing a new guy simply so they have the VA and MCA be one guy instead of two and making it fit together(They are making an entire video game I doubt it's outside of their ability)

I don't know if it's the case this time but with your MGS V(I think SC Blacklist did it too) example it's another blow that the original and fan favorite voice actor was completely blindsided by the decision

[hx]

Change can be good!

[Icolyze]

Nguyên văn bởi ReDD eFFect:

Change can be good! :RedStar:

NO!

ALL CHANGE IS BAD!

GAME OVER I WILL NEVR BUY THIS GAME!

♥♥♥♥ IT I PRE-ORDERED, BUT I WONT LIKE IT!

OMG THIS IS THE BEST GAME EVER!

I ALWAYS KNEW IT WAS GONNA BE!

LOL HATERS ARE STUPID!!!!

[Icolyze]

You know what? Even if their reason given wasn't the real one, it doesn't matter. They pay a lot of money to make this game and they can have whoever the hell they want voicing it. They can remove all voices. They can have a group of deranged ♥♥♥♥♥♥'s making noises if they want. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

But please stop making up ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about not wanting to pay the original actor, etc. You're talking out of your ass and if they offended you and you dislike how they're going about making the game and the choices they take, don't give them your money. But I'm sure like the rest you will pay and enjoy it. Please try get over yourself and your idiotic nostaliga.

[Icolyze]

Also,. please remove the pirvate status from your profile so we can all laugh at you when you do pre-order the game if you already haven't.

[Morgan]

Nguyên văn bởi ReDD eFFect:

Change can be good! :RedStar:

Yes it can but it can also be bad. I like to follow the old rule of if it’s not broken then don’t fix it.

[frostdiamond]

Nguyên văn bởi -Xaviz:

Also,. please remove the pirvate status from your profile so we can all laugh at you when you do pre-order the game if you already haven't.

LOL so much hate. What does my status have anything to do with this? Being a steam user you should know that had I pre-ordered the game, I would have a mouse icon beside my name.

And by the way, looks who's talking-------you haven't pre-ordered the game either, genius, so stop calling people out and assume what they have / haven't ordered.