This Game is Really Suck Optimized

[Diabolicus]

I am very glad I got on the cheap , why not worth € 10 , not talking about the game but the optimization of these that have made Nixxes , a horrible job ever seen, then I know that I do not have the components brand new and not even pretend Ultra graphics but at least acceptable .
My PC holds with fluidity Bioshock Infinite Max Ultra Settings and everything belonging to the SSAO to normal , and it is much heavier than Thief .
If I put even the "Regular" Textures play me stuttering every second and worse when I use it to " Very High" , even I thought it was my graphics card or anything, but I did some tests putting everything on " Very High" and leaving the texture to "Low" and guess what ? I do not stuttering or freeze , so it is not a problem of my PC but the game itself that has been optimized badly ( worse moments of Dark Souls ... )
Then another thing I do not understand that putting "Low" or " Very High" many textures in the game are the same, mystery ...
I recommend to others to take it on the cheap this game at full price is not worth them just like optimization.

[Migz - DH]

Originally posted by Yaz:

My PC holds with fluidity Bioshock Infinite Max Ultra Settings and everything belonging to the SSAO to normal , and it is much heavier than Thief .

No, as I told you in your other thread, Thief is very graphically intense.

I'd say Thief is more so than BioShock Infinite is in BSI's current state (after IG initially fixed the micro-stutter problem, BSI was pretty bad, but they fixed it so that it runs very well now). Thief's models and textures (other than the windows) are more detailed.

The "Recommended" specs for the games show that Thief requires a generation newer hardware than BioShock Infinite did.

[Migz - DH]

I also told you in that other thread that your AMD Radeon HD 6790 is too lightweight for a game with this much going on in it. It was a mid-grade GPU three years ago.... or equivalent to a high-end GPU from four or five years ago.

The AMD Radeon HD 6790 has ~1/4 the GPU power that my system has (2 GTX 570s in SLI), and I'm not even able to run with full AA while maintaining 60 FPS.

[Migz - DH]

Originally posted by Yaz:

Then another thing I do not understand that putting "Low" or " Very High" many textures in the game are the same, mystery ...

And, as I told you in your first thread, you needed to turn off "Automatically limit texture quality" to keep the textures from changing between the Low and Very High Quality textures.

But, that wouldn't help you much, because your video card doesn't have enough VRAM to use the Very High Quality textures without encountering major loading stutters.

The "Automatically limit texture quality" setting allows the game to change which textures it'll use depending on your hardware and the scene being played at the time. Your comparatively low-powered GPU is why the game kept pushing the quality down to Low even though you had a higher resolution quality selected.

[Migz - DH]

In short, "optimization" isn't the problem. Thief is just designed (or optimized) for a better tier of hardware than what you have installed. It's intended to push the newest hardware further than most other games on the market in order to look really good.

If you want to play smoothly at the highest settings at 30 FPS or more at 1920x1080 resolution, you're going to need better video hardware. I'd suggest the following at the minimum:

• At least 1.5GB of VRAM (2GB would be better)
  
• At least 28 GP/s and 43 GT/s fillrates
  
• At least 152 GB/s memory bandwidth

So, if you're an AMD fan, try upgrading to the HD 6970, HD 7950 Boost, HD 7970, HD 7970 GHz Edition, or many of the high-end Rx 200-series cards.

NVidia, GTX 670, GTX 680, GTX 770, GTX 780, GTX 780 Ti, GTX Titan, or GTX Titan Black.

[19wulf80]

Wait is the TC complaining because an old barely mid-range when it came out HD 6790 can barely run THIEF? This game is optimised for one generation old mid to high end GPUs.

Migz - DH, I have to commend your patience and willing to help out a noob such as the TC.

Yaz I know for a fact that the HD 7950 and higher will run THIEF alot more smoothly at higher frame rates, these cards are fairly cheap now. Good luck.

[MeowCats]

Originally posted by marconiex:

I'm running Thief in Windows 8.1 64 bit at a resolution of 4600 x 2600 16:9 with all game settings maxed and I can still get 60 fps.

Unless you have dual Titans, i do not believe you at all.. All settings maxed out means with SSAA on High, which equals 4x the current resolution rendered.. and at this insane Resolution + SSAA.. i don't think any current GPU's can handle this with 60FPS..

[bloodraven43]

Originally posted by Catnip Mew:

Originally posted by marconiex:

I'm running Thief in Windows 8.1 64 bit at a resolution of 4600 x 2600 16:9 with all game settings maxed and I can still get 60 fps.

Unless you have dual Titans, i do not believe you at all.. All settings maxed out means with SSAA on High, which equals 4x the current resolution rendered.. and at this insane Resolution + SSAA.. i don't think any current GPU's can handle this with 60FPS..

my rig gets 71 fps...i7 3770k liquid cooled...16gbs ram...evga 680 4gb card...dont need titans to run this game smooth maxed out

[Migz - DH]

Originally posted by Fr'd:

Migz, since you seem knowlageable on the matter, would mind telling me if my computer specs are worth trying to play THIEF?
For "Can you run it", it seems it is ok, though far from optimal. But I have noticed that this Tool sometimes underestimate the power of my Hardware.
Here is a screenshot of the specs :
Image link [img11.hostingpics.net]

I'm afraid I won't be able to give a much better estimate than the 'Can you run it?' guys can.

So long as your CPU doesn't drag your GPU down, I guess you should be able to run at 1920x1080 with most of the settings at Very High or better and stay above 30 FPS. AA might cause you trouble though. And, I'm not sure about 60 FPS.

Good luck!

[D#]

I just installed the game and ran the benchmark with 60fps (vsync) with everything maxed. My res is only 1680x1050 though. I have an I7 4790 and an overclocked R290.

[bloodraven43]

Originally posted by marconiex:

Originally posted by bloodraven43:

my rig gets 71 fps...i7 3770k liquid cooled...16gbs ram...evga 680 4gb card...dont need titans to run this game smooth maxed out

I have a EVGA 760 card

nice...

[MeowCats]

Originally posted by marconiex:

Originally posted by Catnip Mew:

Unless you have dual Titans, i do not believe you at all.. All settings maxed out means with SSAA on High, which equals 4x the current resolution rendered.. and at this insane Resolution + SSAA.. i don't think any current GPU's can handle this with 60FPS..

Here's a link to a pic of my Thief Main Screen:

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/hh586/Marconiex/Shipping-ThiefGame_2014_06_11_12_39_28_027_zps8d631659.jpg

So you want to tell me.. your 760 can run Thief in this resolution, along with all settings maxed out, including SSAA on high.. which means 4x Times this resolution rendered at 60FPS? no way.. <.< The 760 is a Mid-End Card with only 2GB Vram.. and Thief alone needs more than 3GB for SSAA on High..especially at higher Resolutions.. if i'm not wrong this resolution is higher than 4K.. and as i mentioned already.. a single 760 is NOT going to achieve 60FPS with all settings maxed out in Thief.