Thief the dark project 1998, is kind of a bland dull stealth game

[Lars]

Pros
- Stealth mechanics
- Guards and ideas for how to be sneaky

Cons
- Zombies and magic dinosaurs who cry like Barney the Dinosaur when you shoot them with arrows, these dont belong in a stealth game

[Kunovega]

Considering Thief 1998 was one of the first stealth games of any kind, they were unsure how receptive the market would be to a pure stealth game so they added enemies to fight for variety.

Read: https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/postmortem-i-thief-the-dark-project-i-

You're also on the wrong forum, this is Thief (2014)

[Devil Daughter]

Originally posted by Lars:

Pros
- Stealth mechanics
- Guards and ideas for how to be sneaky

Cons
- Zombies and magic dinosaurs who cry like Barney the Dinosaur when you shoot them with arrows, these dont belong in a stealth game

Congratulations you are 24 years late for your opinion to matter

[Lars]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

Considering Thief 1998 was one of the first stealth games of any kind, they were unsure how receptive the market would be to a pure stealth game so they added enemies to fight for variety.

Read: https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/postmortem-i-thief-the-dark-project-i-

You're also on the wrong forum, this is Thief (2014)

I got the earth tablet so i am that far into the game. But i just aint all that sold on it. But maybe sequal improved it. But so far i will say Tenchu 1 and Metal Gear Solid 1 seems better so far. But maybe Thief 2 can change my mind though

But i also dont like Garrett`s voice much, sounds like he is trying to give me a ASMR tour. But i will see

[Bankai9212]

Again wrong forum, also thief runs laps around tenchu and mgs it terms of stealth and level design. Thief 2 has less super natural stuff preference for either or is polarizing. Anyway make a thread on thief gold forums.

[Lars]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Again wrong forum, also thief runs laps around tenchu and mgs it terms of stealth and level design. Thief 2 has less super natural stuff preference for either or is polarizing. Anyway make a thread on thief gold forums.

Thats debatable. I mean if i shoot an arrow from the dark. What kinda person goes "Oh where did that come from" lol.

Atleast Tenchu has an excuse being on rooftops doing it. And MGS1 uses silencer (which i know isnt realistic, but it adds suspense of disbelief)

When you mean Gold Forums, you mean GOG website. I guess i can do that.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Lars:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Again wrong forum, also thief runs laps around tenchu and mgs it terms of stealth and level design. Thief 2 has less super natural stuff preference for either or is polarizing. Anyway make a thread on thief gold forums.

Thats debatable. I mean if i shoot an arrow from the dark. What kinda person goes "Oh where did that come from" lol.

Atleast Tenchu has an excuse being on rooftops doing it. And MGS1 uses silencer (which i know isnt realistic, but it adds suspense of disbelief)

When you mean Gold Forums, you mean GOG website. I guess i can do that.

I mean how would you see where an arrow was shot in the dark? Also it isn’t, thief was the first to use light and darkness for stealth on top of having floors that make different levels of noise. No, there is a thief gold forum on steam.

[Lars]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Originally posted by Lars:

Thats debatable. I mean if i shoot an arrow from the dark. What kinda person goes "Oh where did that come from" lol.

Atleast Tenchu has an excuse being on rooftops doing it. And MGS1 uses silencer (which i know isnt realistic, but it adds suspense of disbelief)

When you mean Gold Forums, you mean GOG website. I guess i can do that.

I mean how would you see where an arrow was shot in the dark? Also it isn’t, thief was the first to use light and darkness for stealth on top of having floors that make different levels of noise. No, there is a thief gold forum on steam.

You know, where the arrow head is stuck in? Its kinda obvious. And you can see an arrow clear as day when its shot.

Also i disagree on Thief being the first to use noise. Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake did it first interms of alerting of your presense. But using shadows to hide in, that i thought was cool and is a cool mechanic and gameplay idea in Thief.

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Lars:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

I mean how would you see where an arrow was shot in the dark? Also it isn’t, thief was the first to use light and darkness for stealth on top of having floors that make different levels of noise. No, there is a thief gold forum on steam.

You know, where the arrow head is stuck in? Its kinda obvious. And you can see an arrow clear as day when its shot.

Also i disagree on Thief being the worst to use noise. Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake did it first interms of alerting of your presense. But using shadows to hide in, that i thought was a cool and is a cool mechanic and gameplay idea in Thief.

thief started and pioneered it since this released in 1998 and metal gear solid 2 in 2001 and the only game to emulate it well was splinter cell chaos theory. Also humor me how would an arrow glint in darkness with no light? Also how would the arrow landing tell you where is was shot? The most you would get is a general direction.

[Lars]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Originally posted by Lars:

You know, where the arrow head is stuck in? Its kinda obvious. And you can see an arrow clear as day when its shot.

Also i disagree on Thief being the worst to use noise. Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake did it first interms of alerting of your presense. But using shadows to hide in, that i thought was a cool and is a cool mechanic and gameplay idea in Thief.

thief started and pioneered it since this released in 1998 and metal gear solid 2 in 2001 and the only game to emulate it well was splinter cell chaos theory. Also humor me how would an arrow glint in darkness with no light? Also how would the arrow landing tell you where is was shot? The most you would get is a general direction.

I wasnt talking about Metal Gear Solid 2, but Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake, the MSX game from 1990. I wish they could release it on GOG somehow, its awesome game!. But best bet you can play it is a PS2 or Xbox version of MGS3 Subsistence version.

There is light in Thief. Ok maybe you would have a point of it was just darkness, but places where its light. I mean thats not a good argument.

Also never played Splinter Cell outside Blacklist which was fun. I guess i was more playing Rainbow Six on PS1 back then

[Bankai9212]

Originally posted by Lars:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

thief started and pioneered it since this released in 1998 and metal gear solid 2 in 2001 and the only game to emulate it well was splinter cell chaos theory. Also humor me how would an arrow glint in darkness with no light? Also how would the arrow landing tell you where is was shot? The most you would get is a general direction.

I wasnt talking about Metal Gear Solid 2, but Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake, the MSX game from 1990. I wish they could release it on GOG somehow, its awesome game!. But best bet you can play it is a PS2 or Xbox version of MGS3 Subsistence version.

There is light in Thief. Ok maybe you would have a point of it was just darkness, but places where its light. I mean thats not a good argument.

Also never played Splinter Cell outside Blacklist which was fun. I guess i was more playing Rainbow Six on PS1 back then

Even if there was some light it would depend on the type of arrow head, plus the game conditions you not to be in front of enemies. That and on expert some missions have a fail stat for killing anyone. As for metal gear 2 I never played it to really say all I know is that it’s isometric vs first person.

[Lars]

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Originally posted by Lars:

I wasnt talking about Metal Gear Solid 2, but Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake, the MSX game from 1990. I wish they could release it on GOG somehow, its awesome game!. But best bet you can play it is a PS2 or Xbox version of MGS3 Subsistence version.

There is light in Thief. Ok maybe you would have a point of it was just darkness, but places where its light. I mean thats not a good argument.

Also never played Splinter Cell outside Blacklist which was fun. I guess i was more playing Rainbow Six on PS1 back then

Even if there was some light it would depend on the type of arrow head, plus the game conditions you not to be in front of enemies. That and on expert some missions have a fail stat for killing anyone.

I like some things about Thief 1, i just dont consider it ground breaking is all. I may change my mind once i get to Thief 2

[Bankai9212]

Then post this on an actual forum, for its time it is groundbreaking. Otherwise people wouldn’t bother making fan maps and replay it. But different strokes, good luck surviving the actual thief gold forums.

[Devil Daughter]

Originally posted by Lars:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Again wrong forum, also thief runs laps around tenchu and mgs it terms of stealth and level design. Thief 2 has less super natural stuff preference for either or is polarizing. Anyway make a thread on thief gold forums.

Thats debatable. I mean if i shoot an arrow from the dark. What kinda person goes "Oh where did that come from" lol.

Atleast Tenchu has an excuse being on rooftops doing it. And MGS1 uses silencer (which i know isnt realistic, but it adds suspense of disbelief)

When you mean Gold Forums, you mean GOG website. I guess i can do that.

Thief is on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/211600/Thief_Gold/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/211600/discussions/

[Devil Daughter]

Originally posted by Lars:

Originally posted by Bankai9212:

Even if there was some light it would depend on the type of arrow head, plus the game conditions you not to be in front of enemies. That and on expert some missions have a fail stat for killing anyone.

I like some things about Thief 1, i just dont consider it ground breaking is all. I may change my mind once i get to Thief 2

And so is 2:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/211740/Thief_II_The_Metal_Age/

And 3:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/6980/Thief_Deadly_Shadows/

[Lars]

Originally posted by Devil Daughter:

Originally posted by Lars:

I like some things about Thief 1, i just dont consider it ground breaking is all. I may change my mind once i get to Thief 2

And so is 2:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/211740/Thief_II_The_Metal_Age/

And 3:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/6980/Thief_Deadly_Shadows/

Oh i just assumed it was only sold on GOG website. Its one i am playing. But thanks!