'Gettin' Gud' after using 3 clicking

[Mist of Majora]

So I'm reading some pretty disheartening stuff about the controller layout I started with (3 clicks), and yet I still suck at being consistent with it (and no, I have no interest in automating it).

For those who use some form of controller, what are some tips to hit more consistently with this or the popular layout?

[sowebee2]

mouse rules.....

[Ih8myjob]

引用自 Mist of Majora：

So I'm reading some pretty disheartening stuff about the controller layout I started with (3 clicks), and yet I still suck at being consistent with it (and no, I have no interest in automating it).

For those who use some form of controller, what are some tips to hit more consistently with this or the popular layout?

For swing stick, If you're right handed and using the right stick (statistically you will be) make sure you're using a natural draw, not a natural fade (in myplayer settings for you char) your thumb naturally wants to pull down and left and push up and right. Even if you use your fingertips its still a more natural motion. Also, turn the controller to match the angles, dont rotate your hand. If you can get straight back and forth down, turning the controller and doing the same motion= perfect (other than on shots where your footings are messed up).

Those are what I learned in the 20 or so hours I used controller.... but, yes, mouse is best IMO too.


For 3 click, its literally just timing. The only thing to get good at that you need to do is work on your timing.

[Rattner219]

引用自 Ih8myjob：

引用自 Mist of Majora：

The only thing to get good at that you need to do is work on your timing.

Kind of like real golf.

[Mist of Majora]

引用自 Ih8myjob：

引用自 Mist of Majora：

So I'm reading some pretty disheartening stuff about the controller layout I started with (3 clicks), and yet I still suck at being consistent with it (and no, I have no interest in automating it).

For those who use some form of controller, what are some tips to hit more consistently with this or the popular layout?

For swing stick, If you're right handed and using the right stick (statistically you will be) make sure you're using a natural draw, not a natural fade (in myplayer settings for you char) your thumb naturally wants to pull down and left and push up and right. Even if you use your fingertips its still a more natural motion. Also, turn the controller to match the angles, dont rotate your hand. If you can get straight back and forth down, turning the controller and doing the same motion= perfect (other than on shots where your footings are messed up).

Those are what I learned in the 20 or so hours I used controller.... but, yes, mouse is best IMO too.


For 3 click, its literally just timing. The only thing to get good at that you need to do is work on your timing.

This has been really helpful thank you! I'll give it a shot!

[Ih8myjob]

引用自 Mist of Majora：

引用自 Ih8myjob：

For swing stick, If you're right handed and using the right stick (statistically you will be) make sure you're using a natural draw, not a natural fade (in myplayer settings for you char) your thumb naturally wants to pull down and left and push up and right. Even if you use your fingertips its still a more natural motion. Also, turn the controller to match the angles, dont rotate your hand. If you can get straight back and forth down, turning the controller and doing the same motion= perfect (other than on shots where your footings are messed up).

Those are what I learned in the 20 or so hours I used controller.... but, yes, mouse is best IMO too.


For 3 click, its literally just timing. The only thing to get good at that you need to do is work on your timing.

This has been really helpful thank you! I'll give it a shot!

NP, after that, its all muscle memory with a dab of being able to read the course/conditions.

I ALWAYS played sports game with controller, until this. After moving to mouse here, I dont think Ill ever play a golf game with controller again. Theres a learning curve, but its very very worth while to swap over to rip the bandaid off. If you play other games with mouse and keyboard, Id highly encourage you to learn it here too. Its exponentially better. If you have a decent mouse with dpi adjustments, or even better customizable DPI, controller has nothing on it.

[Mist of Majora]

I have NO DOUBT that m/kb is a dramatic improvement in precision over controller, but for the most part, that's just not my aim atm. I just want to do some golfing in bed on my Steam Deck, so for the most part, a controller setup will benefit me more in the short term.

Slightly off-topic: in some of the matchmaking I've played, people are automatically hitting straight shots (no fade or draw) without having to adjust the ball. I can pull that off each swing by adjusting with true shot, but is there a way to preset where we're planning on hitting the ball? How are they doing that?

[imsouporcereal]

引用自 Mist of Majora：

I have NO DOUBT that m/kb is a dramatic improvement in precision over controller, but for the most part, that's just not my aim atm. I just want to do some golfing in bed on my Steam Deck, so for the most part, a controller setup will benefit me more in the short term.

Slightly off-topic: in some of the matchmaking I've played, people are automatically hitting straight shots (no fade or draw) without having to adjust the ball. I can pull that off each swing by adjusting with true shot, but is there a way to preset where we're planning on hitting the ball? How are they doing that?

Casual matchmaking allows you to use Pro Am difficulty. I don’t remember what it’s called, but there is a setting that can change your swing plane to a straight up and down regardless of fade/draw bias. This setting is not available in Ranked matchmaking.

[[TTV]xRuta12x]

i prefer 3 click method, before I start mycareer play I will go into a top golf round to get my timing down. But if you've played previous sports games like madden for example the 3 click is pretty similar to kicking FGs.

[Mist of Majora]

引用自 TTVxRuta12x：

i prefer 3 click method, before I start mycareer play I will go into a top golf round to get my timing down. But if you've played previous sports games like madden for example the 3 click is pretty similar to kicking FGs.

Yeah its familiar to me from Mario Golf when I was younger, which also happens to be my only other virtual golfing experience haha.

Needless to say, this has been quite the learning experience, but a fun one so far haha

[TheSolarKing]

引用自 Ih8myjob：

引用自 Mist of Majora：

This has been really helpful thank you! I'll give it a shot!

NP, after that, its all muscle memory with a dab of being able to read the course/conditions.

I ALWAYS played sports game with controller, until this. After moving to mouse here, I dont think Ill ever play a golf game with controller again. Theres a learning curve, but its very very worth while to swap over to rip the bandaid off. If you play other games with mouse and keyboard, Id highly encourage you to learn it here too. Its exponentially better. If you have a decent mouse with dpi adjustments, or even better customizable DPI, controller has nothing on it.

I'm using mouse as well and have customizable polling frequency & DPI. Using a Razer Basilisk. I've currently been playing with 500hz polling and 800 dpi, but the swing bias offset on Pro difficulty is still fairly difficult for me to nail consistently.

What is your insight on how you have used DPI & polling to increase your performance & play better with mouse? Would love any tips and tricks. Please and thank you!

[Ih8myjob]

引用自 TheSolarKing：

引用自 Ih8myjob：

NP, after that, its all muscle memory with a dab of being able to read the course/conditions.

I ALWAYS played sports game with controller, until this. After moving to mouse here, I dont think Ill ever play a golf game with controller again. Theres a learning curve, but its very very worth while to swap over to rip the bandaid off. If you play other games with mouse and keyboard, Id highly encourage you to learn it here too. Its exponentially better. If you have a decent mouse with dpi adjustments, or even better customizable DPI, controller has nothing on it.

I'm using mouse as well and have customizable polling frequency & DPI. Using a Razer Basilisk. I've currently been playing with 500hz polling and 800 dpi, but the swing bias offset on Pro difficulty is still fairly difficult for me to nail consistently.

What is your insight on how you have used DPI & polling to increase your performance & play better with mouse? Would love any tips and tricks. Please and thank you!

Im using a naga, 1000 Hz polling at 4700 DPI. I have a few slower stages (3800, 3200) but I NEVER swap to them. Default in game settings with default windows pointer speed.
https://imgur.com/a/07lPN0E


My suggestion would be to set a few stages and play with them a bit, I started at about 3000 dpi and worked my way to 4700 which just feels natural with very slight movement. Then, once it FEELS ok, get the muscle memory down.


You dont have to move the mouse very much to get the full swing. Ive been using the inner black ring on the power meter as a "stencil" I dont swing all the way to the bottom nor the top of the circle. It takes VERY little movement. (give me a second Ill paint something up real fast to describe better)
EDIT ADD- https://imgur.com/a/uSg7KBe I will start at the top of the circle in this image in the direction of the TOP target, Ill pull down to the "bottom" of the same circle in the direction you need to pull down, then push back the same direction I started, I dont worry about stopping and follow through as far as needed, but, you dont have to follow through all way. For me, it helps with accuracy to aim at the down swing target on the forward follow through. The back swing, for me is EASY to hit every time without pulling all the way down to it.

Everyone is going to be different though. Theres no "right" setting.

TLDR try a bunch until it feels good, you're getting solid swings/rhythm/accuracy then dial it in with practice.

[TheSolarKing]

引用自 Ih8myjob：

引用自 TheSolarKing：

I'm using mouse as well and have customizable polling frequency & DPI. Using a Razer Basilisk. I've currently been playing with 500hz polling and 800 dpi, but the swing bias offset on Pro difficulty is still fairly difficult for me to nail consistently.

What is your insight on how you have used DPI & polling to increase your performance & play better with mouse? Would love any tips and tricks. Please and thank you!

Im using a naga, 1000 Hz polling at 4700 DPI. I have a few slower stages (3800, 3200) but I NEVER swap to them. Default in game settings with default windows pointer speed.
https://imgur.com/a/07lPN0E


My suggestion would be to set a few stages and play with them a bit, I started at about 3000 dpi and worked my way to 4700 which just feels natural with very slight movement. Then, once it FEELS ok, get the muscle memory down.


You dont have to move the mouse very much to get the full swing. Ive been using the inner black ring on the power meter as a "stencil" I dont swing all the way to the bottom nor the top of the circle. It takes VERY little movement. (give me a second Ill paint something up real fast to describe better)
EDIT ADD- https://imgur.com/a/uSg7KBe I will start at the top of the circle in this image in the direction of the TOP target, Ill pull down to the "bottom" of the same circle in the direction you need to pull down, then push back the same direction I started, I dont worry about stopping and follow through as far as needed, but, you dont have to follow through all way. For me, it helps with accuracy to aim at the down swing target on the forward follow through. The back swing, for me is EASY to hit every time without pulling all the way down to it.

Everyone is going to be different though. Theres no "right" setting.

TLDR try a bunch until it feels good, you're getting solid swings/rhythm/accuracy then dial it in with practice.

Appreciate you my man. Thank you!

One more question - What grip are you using with your mouse? I just learned there are different types today LOL. I would think maybe the claw or palm grip? Or the fingertip grip?

[Ih8myjob]

引用自 TheSolarKing：

引用自 Ih8myjob：

Im using a naga, 1000 Hz polling at 4700 DPI. I have a few slower stages (3800, 3200) but I NEVER swap to them. Default in game settings with default windows pointer speed.
https://imgur.com/a/07lPN0E


My suggestion would be to set a few stages and play with them a bit, I started at about 3000 dpi and worked my way to 4700 which just feels natural with very slight movement. Then, once it FEELS ok, get the muscle memory down.


You dont have to move the mouse very much to get the full swing. Ive been using the inner black ring on the power meter as a "stencil" I dont swing all the way to the bottom nor the top of the circle. It takes VERY little movement. (give me a second Ill paint something up real fast to describe better)
EDIT ADD- https://imgur.com/a/uSg7KBe I will start at the top of the circle in this image in the direction of the TOP target, Ill pull down to the "bottom" of the same circle in the direction you need to pull down, then push back the same direction I started, I dont worry about stopping and follow through as far as needed, but, you dont have to follow through all way. For me, it helps with accuracy to aim at the down swing target on the forward follow through. The back swing, for me is EASY to hit every time without pulling all the way down to it.

Everyone is going to be different though. Theres no "right" setting.

TLDR try a bunch until it feels good, you're getting solid swings/rhythm/accuracy then dial it in with practice.

Appreciate you my man. Thank you!

One more question - What grip are you using with your mouse? I just learned there are different types today LOL. I would think maybe the claw or palm grip? Or the fingertip grip?

I haven't got that "nerdy" into it. I use my natural grip, but to improve may need to get that into the weeds.