cheating already

[-Roasted-]

-21 thru 16 holes? not a chance... I don't care who you think you these scores will NEVER happen... it's pretty disgusting that people NEED to cheat to win, and this game isn't even "released" yet

[-Roasted-]

it's too obvious who is cheating in this game and who isn't, just look at player stats, that's a 100% tell-tale sign

[WarHawk]

I think something fishy is going on, but don't even understand how someone can be cheating at this game. Seems like there are too many variables. However, I've played a few online matches where someone at my same ranking "Par 3" which is low will set the ball right by the Pin almost every shot or, multiple chip ins not even close to the pin, or 40ft putts consistently throughout the game. Again something fishy. I've shot a -11 twice on Pro difficulty for 18 holes and I just don't see how people are getting -60 on 3 round tournaments. I don't put much thought into it though it is bothering. I love the game though and almost everything has been positive for me.

[Doc Clarke]

Well I was the one whinging on threads about the game being too hard 3 or 4 days ago.
Since then I have practised and practised. Got myself a Gamesir gamepad and fitted an extended thing to the right thumbstick. It made a lot of difference. My thumb now sits comfortably on the stick (i use two thumbs side by side)
Moved from the easiest, through amateur now on pro-am. Hitting 2 or 3 perfects most shots with true swing. Sometimes getting all 4 perfects. Played online with a few groups and watched a lot of videos where people show you their shots. Show you their hands on the controller and the shots being played. Stives (a new YouTuber)
So far, in the last 10 days it's taken 12+ hours in the "Early look" and just under 40 in the game itself over the last 7 days. My game has improved massively. I expect to move to full pro in a week or two. Then keep on trying. I just won the Legends on semi pro true swing 2 full rounds and got 16 under par.
And that's after a week and being totally and utterly useless 7 days ago (try 54 over for one round last Saturday... on Amateur)
So when people have played for 11 years since TGC original first came out, It's actually quite easy to imagine the top couple of hundred players (out of a million+ across all platforms who will buy this game)
Yes - they dominate. Yes they seem everywhere when you look at the daily and weekly rankings for ranked online play. But many of them are the same players who have been doing this for a decade now. Probably millions of repetitions. Muscle memory that means they barely have to think about it. A quick glance at the shot, lie, foot above or below ball, wind, landing conditions, green speed. Whack... job done.
Not only are these top 100 or so players Very Very good. Many of them will plough through 18 holes in 10 or 12 minutes. Taking 58 shots on a par 72 course. Then do it again.

[Tore]

Originally posted by Doc Clarke:

Well I was the one whinging on threads about the game being too hard 3 or 4 days ago.
Since then I have practised and practised. Got myself a Gamesir gamepad and fitted an extended thing to the right thumbstick. It made a lot of difference. My thumb now sits comfortably on the stick (i use two thumbs side by side)
Moved from the easiest, through amateur now on pro-am. Hitting 2 or 3 perfects most shots with true swing. Sometimes getting all 4 perfects. Played online with a few groups and watched a lot of videos where people show you their shots. Show you their hands on the controller and the shots being played. Stives (a new YouTuber)
So far, in the last 10 days it's taken 12+ hours in the "Early look" and just under 40 in the game itself over the last 7 days.
So when people have played for 11 years since TGC original first came out, It's actually quite easy to imagine the top couple of hundred players (out of a million+ across all platforms who will buy this game)
Yes - they dominate. Yes they seem everywhere when you look at the daily and weekly rankings for ranked online play. But many of them are the same players who have been doing this for a decade now. Probably millions of repetitions. Muscle memory that means they barely have to think about it. A quick glance at the shot, lie, foot above or below ball, wind, landing conditions, green speed. Whack... job done.
Not only are these top 100 or so players Very Very good. Many of them will plough through 18 holes in 10 or 12 minutes. Taking 58 shots on a par 72 course. Then do it again.

Yeah bro, you totally did that, now what's your rank and username so we know you didn't just make that all up because you're a cheater?

[Doc Clarke]

Same name as here. Feel free to check
"bro"
Player rank is in the mid 40's. The club house rank (or whatever it's called) is about 1 lower). My main golfer "Anita Billabong" is level 86 right now
(that's my wife's nickname BTW... )

[Tore]

Originally posted by Doc Clarke:

Same name as here. Feel free to check
"bro"

So what's your rank then? You're a pro now, you should know all the ranks and where you're at?

[Metal]

Everyone saying this is so easy to get -20 definitely has "perfect swing" on in the settings. Change it to pro. This is not the same as when you set a tournament to pro difficulty, there's 2 different settings.

[T-Duke76]

Even if is not about cheating this kind of "performances" are out of reality and ridicolous, that's the reason I prefer single player or playing with few friends.

[michaelgehrt]

I dont play MP. I play only the SP.

[Doc Clarke]

Why don't you guys watch some YouTubers play?
Some will show you their joypad as they take shots.
Seeing a guy who is scoring 14 under on Master call out another who scores 22 under on Master "Surely this guy is cheating" Now that's funny.
To mere mortals the one scoring 14 under must be cheating. But he shows you his gamepad, his screen. You see every error in swing, his hands move to make the swing, every decision and every correction.

Some people sure do cheat. But some are just a lot better than you think they should be.

This game has been roughly the same for 10 years since TGC, and some of the names I see on the leader board are the same players who played The Golf Club back almost 10 years ago, and have played hundred and hundreds of hours of every game in between
Of course they are much better then me.

Just got off watching ranked Street Fighter televised on Capcom cup yesterday.
I used to play a lot of SF as a young adult back in the 90's. But the skill of these players. If I couldn't see it with my own eyes in a controlled massive televised event I would not believe it.
If you want to see unbelievable skill. People achieving moves with precision and speed that seems entirely unnatural. Watch that. People who commit thousands of hours to a game are sometimes that good.
Us mere mortals just need to get over it.

[Messiah]

Originally posted by AL:

this game is so broken. i can swing my swing analog LEFT TO RIGHT and it still hits the fairway, wind does nothing to the ball, lie does nothing to the ball flight, up hill down hill has no effect on the distance. ive gone -15 basically playing blindfolded. cant even miss the fairway or green if i tried. this game is trash

on master

Then we are playing different games, slightest miss on the diagonal draw/fade on pro setting and I go into the rough. It sounds like you have some easier setting on or maybe you upgraded your character a lot?

[90s Gamer]

Played the master one yesterday i think it was leader was -22 or -21 it's just a joke. Just completely ruins online for me like why cant they just ban these muppets who for some reason want to cheat on a golf game.

[lenny.lion]

You tube video -85 for 4 rounds? 2k ranked tours on master
what can you say?

[-Roasted-]

Originally posted by lenny.lion:

You tube video -85 for 4 rounds? 2k ranked tours on master
what can you say?

some people don't care to the fact they CHEAT to win and will even brag about, this on one example
-20+ anything with 15+mph, not a chance

[Doc Clarke]

Watch them play then!!
Most of the top 10 stream live on Twitch and upload to YouTube here they let you see their joypad as they play
Most of the best players are not cheating. You can watch players make -22 in 18 holes.
See their joypad, their hands, their swing, the shot. Everything.

RevN shows you every single movement of his joypad on a second screen as he player. And yes he shoots between -16 and -22 on Master difficulty.

He's been on the leader-boards in these games since 2017 at least to my knowledge. He must have over 10,000 hours in all the TGC games combined. All of the top couple of hundred players have.

What we need is a separation of handicap by skill level.
Because we (I definitely include myself in this) are never - ever going to get close to that level of dedication to one game.
When these top players dominate all the categories they ruin it for everyone else.

If they are so good at Master and Legend - why do they also play Pro, Semi Pro?

Why doesn't 2K stop them from playing so far below their level and winning all the prizes on those daily and weekly tournaments as well?
The same 50 or so players winning all the prizes even those at levels well below their ability. Means 99.9% of players who ruck up for a challenge at a lower level - like Semi-Pro or Pro. hoping to win a prize appropriate to their skill level- are frozen out.

If it was boxing it would be like letting 1992 Mike Tyson fight Martha Stewart