cheating already

[-Roasted-]

-21 thru 16 holes? not a chance... I don't care who you think you these scores will NEVER happen... it's pretty disgusting that people NEED to cheat to win, and this game isn't even "released" yet

[Doc Clarke]

Yeah weather and wind are never a factor for me.

Domed shaped greens made of polished glass on the other hand...

[Doc Clarke]

Might be worth considering that the early access players. This week - are likely to be heavily weighted towards the very best players.
Players who know and love the franchise, get it every year and want every advantage (like a weeks head start) they can get and are prepared to pay an extra $30 for that.
I suspect next Friday we will see a lot more players struggle with the game.
Not saying that is exclusive or anything. But I bet that's the bias of players.
Most of the best players. Those who put in hundreds upon hundreds of hours a year into this game since it was "The Golf Club" will have been in this early access.
The real acid test will be next weekend when (I suspect) a much higher percentage of casuals and new players get the game.

[Tore]

Originally posted by Doc Clarke:

Might be worth considering that the early access players. This week - are likely to be heavily weighted towards the very best players.
Players who know and love the franchise, get it every year and want every advantage (like a weeks head start) they can get and are prepared to pay an extra $30 for that.
I suspect next Friday we will see a lot more players struggle with the game.
Not saying that is exclusive or anything. But I bet that's the bias of players.
Most of the best players. Those who put in hundreds upon hundreds of hours a year into this game since it was "The Golf Club" will have been in this early access.
The real acid test will be next weekend when (I suspect) a much higher percentage of casuals and new players get the game.

My game was actually bugged and I was stuck playing on extra easy despite being set to Masters, I tried an online quickplay match and it's completely different. This game is genuinely harder than actual golf, which is insane lol

[Doc Clarke]

Yes. IRL I play at 12 or 13 handicap.

I've been playing HB golf games since the first one. They are all in my Steam Library. And I am still MUCH better at real golf than I am at this game... and I'm not very good at real golf.
:)

[Tore]

Originally posted by Doc Clarke:

Yes. IRL I play at 12 or 13 handicap.

I've been playing HB golf games since the first one. They are all in my Steam Library. And I am still MUCH better at real golf than I am at this game... and I'm not very good at real golf.
:)

Yeah playing this on hard seems extremely unrealistic, hitting a 300+ yard drive as an average golfer is extremely easy. Hitting one as a pro is just second nature. This game punishes even the slightest bit of mis-alignment with HUGE slices.

So I change my previous position. There is ZERO percent chance anyone is hitting a -20 in this game on this level. There must be a way to bug the game so it plays on super easy online as well, just like it did for me in career mode.

[90s Gamer]

Just played my first ranked one Pro Am and leaders have -20 I don't care whether pro am or pro nobody is hitting -20 nobody is that perfect unless there cheating. Utter no sense.

[-Roasted-]

Originally posted by Doc Clarke:

Watched a YouTuber called Stives do the challenge yesterday.
Did minus 18. He was very disappointed.
He tried again and got minus 22. All recorded.
Playing at LEGEND difficulty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsIkEM1uM_w&t=1026s

The issue is that those that are in the top few hundred players (of a game that sells well over a million copies across all versions) are SOOOOOOOO much better than everyone else it's comical.

In 2K23 the same few dozen names win the ranked weekly tournaments week after week. The chances of breaking into that elite are minimal unless you "no life" the game.
They need to have a handicap system for those who can't handle the Pro level. My best Pro round is still 17 over par. Now with over 40 hours played.

But to play online - Pro is what you need to be good at, or there is no point.

I watch another Youtuber "Gamer Ability" who has played these games since it was "The Golf Club" plays for hundreds of hours every year and he failed to get into the top 50 of the Q-School in year one and only just made the top 50 to qualify for his amateur card in year two.

Both these guys have a lot more time to devote to a game than I ever will. And even then one of those can barely make the amateur Q tour when playing on Pro difficulty.

The other gets upset when he doesn't score at least 20 under par in Legend difficulty.

My concern is that the game has been made for the loud 0.1% of players who want it tougher and harder every year,
Because they really are that good.
But if you spend 2,000 hours on the same game every year. or are just unnaturally dexterous with the controller.. you probably will be.

The risk is it shuts the doors on 99.9% of players for whom online play becomes a complete waste of time.

this is over 4 rounds.....

[Doc Clarke]

I think it was 3 rounds.
Either way he shot 48 under in 3 rounds on today's video
My last round on Pro... 35 over and that included 2 abandoned holes (which I think happens automatically after the 10th shot or something like that)

[Capt.EO]

its likely that anyone with the skill to do any sort of coding changes to the base game could make a clicker bot program that would make a perfect swing every time which would help a lot but dont think a program for a putter bot would be nearly as simple .

[Tore]

Originally posted by Capt.EO:

its likely that anyone with the skill to do any sort of coding changes to the base game could make a clicker bot program that would make a perfect swing every time which would help a lot but dont think a program for a putter bot would be nearly as simple .

With A.I. cooking up homebrewed cheating apps is extremely simple. If someone knew what they were doing it would take them maybe a day to have something up and running, even with putting etc. There's 100% cheating going on and it will likely be ignored because it seems like this one is designed as a money grab more than a golf sim. I bet when it goes into full release the store is flooded with OP items etc.

[Capt.EO]

that isnt legend difficulty in that video the greyed safe areas are HUGE.

lol...

[nike23]

I would love to see some of yall playing a racing sim...but he is 5 seconds faster and i cant make up 5 seconds, of course because its called a skill gap. Top players have always shot these scores for over 30 years, it does not mean they are cheating because you cant do it.

[Tore]

Originally posted by nike23:

I would love to see some of yall playing a racing sim...but he is 5 seconds faster and i cant make up 5 seconds, of course because its called a skill gap. Top players have always shot these scores for over 30 years, it does not mean they are cheating because you cant do it.

You're saying top players shoot entire rounds of nothing but birdie/eagles at max difficulty?

[Hellofaputt]

Originally posted by -Roasted-:

Originally posted by Master Blaster:

what difficulty?

this is in the ranked tournaments, any of the difficulties, im sorry, a -20+ is NEVER going to happen in the master/legendary difficulties. i dont care how "good" you think are, its NOT possible!!

And Sit back and watch they will do it every tournament watch

[Tore]

Originally posted by DatBoiCold:

Originally posted by -Roasted-:

this is in the ranked tournaments, any of the difficulties, im sorry, a -20+ is NEVER going to happen in the master/legendary difficulties. i dont care how "good" you think are, its NOT possible!!

And Sit back and watch they will do it every tournament watch

Once again, that would require them to birdie/eagle EVERY SINGLE HOLE, in the older PGA games where driving didn't require a scalpel I could see it being possible. Now the hit boxes for long drives are microscopic, I don't understand why the devs made driving so difficult as it's literally the easiest part of golfing, but here we are.