cheating already

[-Roasted-]

-21 thru 16 holes? not a chance... I don't care who you think you these scores will NEVER happen... it's pretty disgusting that people NEED to cheat to win, and this game isn't even "released" yet

[Master Blaster]

what difficulty?

[300see]

The game is released if you paid for it. I've been playing on my PC, the best score so far has been a -20 for 18 holes. NO cheating. The game does have some quirky things going on. I'm on Pro level and no wind at all, strange..

[90s Gamer]

Originally posted by -Roasted-:

-21 thru 16 holes? not a chance... I don't care who you think you these scores will NEVER happen... it's pretty disgusting that people NEED to cheat to win, and this game isn't even "released" yet

I agree mate cheating always baffles me in any game, like what does anyone gain from it you have to be one very insecure, sad individual.

[-Roasted-]

Originally posted by Master Blaster:

what difficulty?

this is in the ranked tournaments, any of the difficulties, im sorry, a -20+ is NEVER going to happen in the master/legendary difficulties. i dont care how "good" you think are, its NOT possible!!

[300see]

I have the entire game not a pre-release. The game will be released on the 27th if you paid for that, I paid for early release, I'll take your apology now.

[v i o l e n c e]

I agree there's something fishy going on.

I played a PGA tour, category OPEN 4x18, difficulty Pro-Am.
My scores was from -8 to -12, maybe I could have scored -14 with fully upgraded clubs and golfer and a bit of luck. But the top scores are -70 which is more than -17 every day, 4 rounds in a row. That's just insane!! I would like to see a video or a stream of this play, because it just looks physicly impossible.

[Carol Mom to Dara]

That's why I never played the tournaments in the 23 version. Players always shooting -60 on a regular basis???

[MP]

Imagine getting triggered by some numbers . Have fun instead.

[v i o l e n c e]

Originally posted by MP:

Imagine getting triggered by some numbers . Have fun instead.

You missed the point. By playing PGA tours (as opposed to playing MyCareer or QuickMatch) the goal is to classify yourself how good you are in compare to others. I don't need to win or gain anything.... just need to see for instance with 1000 players - am I top50? top100? or just totally at the bottom? And then try to find and adjust, eliminate weak links etc.
But if the leaderboards are full of anomalies, what can you take from it? Just pointless to play if there are indeed cheaters.

[MP]

Originally posted by v i o l e n c e:

You missed the point. ....

Fair point, my bad. I just happen to not really care about such things.

[GmanUK1965]

I've often wondered this. How do they cheat?

I understand there are ways to make sure the controller stick or mouse goes in a straight line so they get perfect shots every time, but what about putting? Getting a straight shot wont help if the green is sloped some way. How do they cheat that way? There must be a way, but how?

I have no intention to cheat as it is pointless. Cheating in single player games is fine, as I have done in the past with other games to get past certain areas that would otherwise make me give up on the game, but that isn't hurting anyone. Cheating online against other players, that is just wrong, and that is hurting people

I have tried to play online against other people in every game in this franchise but I am rubbish and always end up in the bottom 50 but seeing people at the top getting -20+ makes it pointless to try and improve your scores online if you are playing against cheaters.

Basically playing this game online seems to be for cheaters only, competing on who can cheat the best

[Doc Clarke]

Watched a YouTuber called Stives do the challenge yesterday.
Did minus 18. He was very disappointed.
He tried again and got minus 22. All recorded.
Playing at LEGEND difficulty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsIkEM1uM_w&t=1026s

The issue is that those that are in the top few hundred players (of a game that sells well over a million copies across all versions) are SOOOOOOOO much better than everyone else it's comical.

In 2K23 the same few dozen names win the ranked weekly tournaments week after week. The chances of breaking into that elite are minimal unless you "no life" the game.
They need to have a handicap system for those who can't handle the Pro level. My best Pro round is still 17 over par. Now with over 40 hours played.

But to play online - Pro is what you need to be good at, or there is no point.

I watch another Youtuber "Gamer Ability" who has played these games since it was "The Golf Club" plays for hundreds of hours every year and he failed to get into the top 50 of the Q-School in year one and only just made the top 50 to qualify for his amateur card in year two.

Both these guys have a lot more time to devote to a game than I ever will. And even then one of those can barely make the amateur Q tour when playing on Pro difficulty.

The other gets upset when he doesn't score at least 20 under par in Legend difficulty.

My concern is that the game has been made for the loud 0.1% of players who want it tougher and harder every year,
Because they really are that good.
But if you spend 2,000 hours on the same game every year. or are just unnaturally dexterous with the controller.. you probably will be.

The risk is it shuts the doors on 99.9% of players for whom online play becomes a complete waste of time.

[Tore]

Originally posted by Doc Clarke:

Watched a YouTuber called Stives do the challenge yesterday.
Did minus 18. He was very disappointed.
He tried again and got minus 22. All recorded.
Playing at LEGEND difficulty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsIkEM1uM_w&t=1026s

The issue is that those that are in the top few hundred players (of a game that sells well over a million copies across all versions) are SOOOOOOOO much better than everyone else it's comical.

In 2K23 the same few dozen names win the ranked weekly tournaments week after week. The chances of breaking into that elite are minimal unless you "no life" the game.
They need to have a handicap system for those who can't handle the Pro level. My best Pro round is still 17 over par. Now with over 40 hours played.

But to play online - Pro is what you need to be good at, or there is no point.

I watch another Youtuber "Gamer Ability" who has played these games since it was "The Golf Club" plays for hundreds of hours every year and he failed to get into the top 50 of the Q-School in year one and only just made the top 50 to qualify for his amateur card in year two.

Both these guys have a lot more time to devote to a game than I ever will. And even then one of those can barely make the amateur Q tour when playing on Pro difficulty.

The other gets upset when he doesn't score at least 20 under par in Legend difficulty.

My concern is that the game has been made for the loud 0.1% of players who want it tougher and harder every year,
Because they really are that good.
But if you spend 2,000 hours on the same game every year. or are just unnaturally dexterous with the controller.. you probably will be.

The risk is it shuts the doors on 99.9% of players for whom online play becomes a complete waste of time.

I didn't realize this game was that hard for other people. I bumped it to Master and will probably go to Legend, but on Master getting -20 is extremely easy, to the point where I usually go out of my way to try fun shots just to get a few bogey's.

I should try the online then, I might be really good at this and not have realize it lol

[Master Blaster]

yea you should try ranked, cause if youre getting -20 on master and is extremely easy, you should be ranked 1 in no time online with real players on pro...seems a no brainer.

[Tore]

Originally posted by Master Blaster:

yea you should try ranked, cause if youre getting -20 on master and is extremely easy, you should be ranked 1 in no time online with real players on pro...seems a no brainer.

I feel like this can't be right...the one thing I notice is even on Master my game's weather is still really nice, so maybe something is going on there, but in clear weather is it still hard to get -20?