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balloon pikachu Mar 30, 2014 @ 10:04pm
Some nudging questions.
So basically this is what's going on. I recently bought a fight stick, and I've been trying it out with Pinball arcade.

Previously, I had been using a 360 gamead, and using the left and right bumpers for flippers, and the triggers for the alternative flippers, on tables like bk and bk2k. Anyways. Things worked ok for me, and the nudging with the control stick was great, it offered me a lot of control. I could do little nudges with little to no fear of ever tilting, and for the most part they seemed to work just as good as hard nudges that would often give warnings.

With my fight stick, my stick is using directions based on the dpad.. which it does by default I think because it's set to xbox 360/pc controller mode (theres a switch on the back of my stick, lets me choose between ps3 and pc/360 support. Anyways, point is, that when I nudge, I've set my nudge to the stick, and it will send the nudge to the maximum level. Basically I'll get a warning if I nudge two times really quick.

I've been spoiled with the nudging I could pull off with the 360 maybe... I don't know. The hard nudges I have to do now seems a bit much. They are noticbly stronger then the little tiny nudges I can do with the 360 joystick and on top of that on fast tables I will send myself into warning status really really quickly... is that going to be a problem or do I just need to play consertaviely, slower, take my time and line my shots up and focus on ball control..?

I find I was able to play more erratic and take on the fly shots because I could nudge so freely before, but not with the stick... I need more practice I suppose...

One final question but

Do some tables like keep track of warnings? I've only played class of 1812 so far and it seems to work really well with this table. I can nudge pretty often and I just need to take a break in between nudges. But.. are there any tables that playing with stick is going to be basically impossible without tilting, just because I can't nudge gently?
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balloon pikachu Mar 30, 2014 @ 10:06pm 
I forgot to mention this as well as I got carried away with the nudging discussion, but, playing with the extra responsive buttons with my fight stick as opposed to the xbox controller is really awesome. It's like playing a completely different game of pinball, my shots seem ten times more responsive.
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Bruno Mar 31, 2014 @ 12:06am 
Sweetheart, you are the only one to use a fightstick to play pinball on this planet.
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Deathtank Mar 31, 2014 @ 11:11am 
lol xD
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BlackRainbow Mar 31, 2014 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by Bruno:
Sweetheart, you are the only one to use a fightstick to play pinball on this planet.
Better than a racing wheel, I guess.
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balloon pikachu Mar 31, 2014 @ 11:35am 
It's actually awesome, Bruno. The response time is instant unlike the xbox controller which has slight lag. And yeah, hope you enjoy playing pinball with your stupid racing wheel...
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Pragmatic Tornado Mar 31, 2014 @ 11:49am 
Originally posted by Bruno:
Sweetheart, you are the only one to use a fightstick to play pinball on this planet.

Haha, yeah not impossible.

Originally posted by Irisaurus Rex★:
It's actually awesome, Bruno. The response time is instant unlike the xbox controller which has slight lag. And yeah, hope you enjoy playing pinball with your stupid racing wheel...

Use the upper shoulder buttons instead of the lower analog buttons to eliminate the slight lag. Obviously, stick to a wired controller as well.
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Gozer Mar 31, 2014 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by Viper:
Use the upper shoulder buttons instead of the lower analog buttons to eliminate the slight lag. Obviously, stick to a wired controller as well.

Yeah. I use the LB and RB for flippers. It's much better then using the triggers.
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balloon pikachu Mar 31, 2014 @ 1:51pm 
Originally posted by Viper:
Originally posted by Bruno:
Sweetheart, you are the only one to use a fightstick to play pinball on this planet.

Haha, yeah not impossible.

Originally posted by Irisaurus Rex★:
It's actually awesome, Bruno. The response time is instant unlike the xbox controller which has slight lag. And yeah, hope you enjoy playing pinball with your stupid racing wheel...

Use the upper shoulder buttons instead of the lower analog buttons to eliminate the slight lag. Obviously, stick to a wired controller as well.
Ahem... the buttons on my arcade stick are still more responsive then the left and right bumper shoulder buttons. I know that the triggers are even more delayed. If you don't believe me just try...
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Pragmatic Tornado Mar 31, 2014 @ 3:21pm 
And the loss of analogue nudging is definitely not worth a couple milliseconds less response time. I use the bumper buttons myself, and they work just fine.
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Gozer Mar 31, 2014 @ 3:46pm 
Originally posted by Irisaurus Rex★:
Originally posted by Viper:

Haha, yeah not impossible.



Use the upper shoulder buttons instead of the lower analog buttons to eliminate the slight lag. Obviously, stick to a wired controller as well.
Ahem... the buttons on my arcade stick are still more responsive then the left and right bumper shoulder buttons. I know that the triggers are even more delayed. If you don't believe me just try...

I just tested my HRAP EX. The input delay seems to be the same IMO vs LB and RB on a wired 360 controller. The analogue nudging is a big plus.

As far as table warnings go; you usually get two warnings before a tilt occurs. A single warning and a double warning. The Pinball Arcade tilt sensitivity is pretty low compared to real tables. Don't be afraid to nudge a bunch.
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balloon pikachu Mar 31, 2014 @ 4:19pm 
I think my xbox 360 controller sucks then because the buttons are more responsive on my stick
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Brock Mar 31, 2014 @ 11:44pm 
As far as I can tell, only 'full' nudges register on the tables for a potential TILT, the amount of full nudges you're allowed in a specific time period depends on the table.
Smaller nudges only achievable with analogue control are still very effective and you can use them constantly with little danger of a TILT.

Wireless 360 controller for me. I might've detected a very tiny delay in flipper response when I moved from keyboard, but it's something I don't think about now. You adjust.

Use whatever you're most comfortable with, but losing analogue nudge would be a deal breaker for me.
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Pragmatic Tornado Apr 1, 2014 @ 2:05am 
Originally posted by Brock:
As far as I can tell, only 'full' nudges register on the tables for a potential TILT, the amount of full nudges you're allowed in a specific time period depends on the table.
Smaller nudges only achievable with analogue control are still very effective and you can use them constantly with little danger of a TILT.

Wireless 360 controller for me. I might've detected a very tiny delay in flipper response when I moved from keyboard, but it's something I don't think about now. You adjust.

Use whatever you're most comfortable with, but losing analogue nudge would be a deal breaker for me.

I rarely ever do a full nudge, because it simply isn't needed most of the time. I often do a series of small nudges though, which can be very effective if used correctly, and will not fill up your tilt meter as fast.
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