System Shock® 2 (Classic)

System Shock® 2 (Classic)

Sines Dec 30, 2021 @ 5:32pm
Save Editor?
So, for some reason I thought that there were Implants besides the stat ones, and the lab boosters. Well, at least those that aren't late game Research requiring ones. And now I'm regretting taking double implants over Tank on Impossible difficulty.

Is there a save editor that'll let me swap them out? I've seen a few sites list console commands, but none of them list OS Upgrades. I've picked up my second OS upgrade, so I've got a long time to go without Tank.
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Sines Dec 30, 2021 @ 5:56pm 
Found this older thread. Boy was this complicated. I... MIGHT have been able to figure this on my own if I had enough time... maaaaaybe. Probably would have gotten back to Hydroponics faster from a fresh save though.

"yes, but this smells like breaking the save and maybe even the game, if you ask me.

you need the Shocked editor (install via SS2tool), start it up, type
set game_mode_backup 0
into the command window in the lower right corner and hit enter, click Game/Persistent Player Position, press alt+G, hit escape to get into the main menu, load your save, hit alt+E, once in edit mode, press F3, type PLAYER and hit enter, hit F6 and find the TRAITS property. edit as you see fit, click done, hit alt+G to get ingame, hit escape to enter the menu and make a new save. exit the editor, start the game, load the new/edited save.

easy, wasn't it?"

Overall, it seems to have gone well. The traits are merely numbered, but it's basically 1-4 first row, 5-8 second row, etc... so I just turned the Trait 7 into Trait 8 to turn double implants into Tank.

I thought I had unequipped my Implants on the save I intended to use. But when I got in, I saw my Swiftboost was missing. Fortunately, it was just behind the locked implant slot. Could have left it there, perhaps, but I was just able to unequip it as usual.

That being said, I don't think the game liked what I did. Sent a Hybrid to my face, while a Midwife shot me in the back... But nothing seems to have exploded immediately.
Last edited by Sines; Dec 30, 2021 @ 5:59pm
Sabin Stargem Dec 31, 2021 @ 3:26pm 
There is a pair of implants that can't be gotten legit in-game, you have to use the console for them. They are RunFast and WormBlend. The latter makes pure annelids ignore the player, while RunFast is Road Runner levels of speed. In fact, you can potentially kill yourself from running into things.

RunFast might be pretty good for speedrunning purposes, if you can manage to not splat yourself.
ZylonBane Dec 31, 2021 @ 5:12pm 
Sounds like this guy put more effort into cheating than beating the game legitimately, or just restarting.
Sines Dec 31, 2021 @ 5:50pm 
Originally posted by ZylonBane:
Sounds like this guy put more effort into cheating than beating the game legitimately, or just restarting.
Honestly, in the time frame from when I got Implants to when I changed it into Tank, I died way more than if I had just chosen Tank. This wasn't a case of "Now that I have lots of grenades, I'm going to refund my points in Standard!". It was a bad choice, at the time, that made things harder, and that I only made based on a flawed premise (namely, that implants were more than +1 to a basic stat). Heck, since I spent the time with that OS Upgrade using the extra slot for Lab Assistant, I didn't even really benefit from it, since there's not much reason to not just sit in the Med/Sci upgrade safe room and let the research timer tick down. So I didn't even benefit from having +1 Strength and +1 Agility at the same time.

It is technically cheating, but I'm still keeping all the lost time and resources from the deaths I had with the inferior OS. So I did pay a price for it. And while I can be hard on myself I generally see things like "I would have made a different choice if I took 5 seconds to check the wiki" as something I can run takebacks on, especially if there's no short term benefit to the mistake that I'm profitting from.

But hey, if you want to call it cheating, go right ahead. Personally, I consider futzing with the editor and all that another nice new challenge in and of itself!
Vassago Rain Jan 1, 2022 @ 1:16am 
You get +3 HP and higher resistances with an endurboost, and should always combine double implants with tank, anyway.
Sines Jan 1, 2022 @ 11:03am 
Originally posted by Vassago Rain:
You get +3 HP and higher resistances with an endurboost, and should always combine double implants with tank, anyway.
True, I might have overreacted. But I hadn't gotten to Endurboost yet, and my progress had been pretty crap so far. I was trying something new in terms of build to shake things up, and I don't think it quite paid off. I was also using the Wrench far less than I should have been, because while my ammo was fine, Maintenence Tools were short in supply and I'd already had to backtrack to find a working shotgun because I broke the one I had, and my Pistol was getting close to that point too.
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Date Posted: Dec 30, 2021 @ 5:32pm
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