in fact this game is a scam

[cergames]

Imo this game wont ever come out of our wishlist, their X is dead they do not share any information, for me this is a scam and they must be shamed to critisim bodycam at least they made something not like this sh-****

[C-Fiz]

some confusion on what defines a scam? A dishonest scheme; a fraud.

Yes, something can absolutely be a scam even if no money is directly involved, as the goal of a scammer can be to manipulate or steal personal information, time, or other valuable resources, even if no financial transactions occur.

[C-Fiz]

TΩKSYK a écrit :

Scam = paid money + no product. No money paid here = not a scam.

false, doesnt need to include money. could be info, time, etc

[Kaliwirta]

not a scam, it's just been abandoned, happens all the time

[Breakfast At Gimlis]

C-Fiz a écrit :

some confusion on what defines a scam? A dishonest scheme; a fraud.

Yes, something can absolutely be a scam even if no money is directly involved, as the goal of a scammer can be to manipulate or steal personal information, time, or other valuable resources, even if no financial transactions occur.

Personal information, yes. Time, no. A scam or fraud requires a non-mutually beneficial exchange. Someone who does something like this to waste time doesn’t gain anything from that. So while you are correct that it doesn’t have to be money, it does have to benefit the scammer in someway

[+CancelSelect ®]

Just remember, if there a play test, it's gona be on steam. Don't login to sites with steam acc, who promise you play test of this game, cuz many scams are there.

[DrJuiceMD]

Breakfast At Gimlis a écrit :

C-Fiz a écrit :

some confusion on what defines a scam? A dishonest scheme; a fraud.

Yes, something can absolutely be a scam even if no money is directly involved, as the goal of a scammer can be to manipulate or steal personal information, time, or other valuable resources, even if no financial transactions occur.

Personal information, yes. Time, no. A scam or fraud requires a non-mutually beneficial exchange. Someone who does something like this to waste time doesn’t gain anything from that. So while you are correct that it doesn’t have to be money, it does have to benefit the scammer in someway

Major publicity and crowd funding?

[Breakfast At Gimlis]

DrJuiceMD a écrit :

Breakfast At Gimlis a écrit :

Personal information, yes. Time, no. A scam or fraud requires a non-mutually beneficial exchange. Someone who does something like this to waste time doesn’t gain anything from that. So while you are correct that it doesn’t have to be money, it does have to benefit the scammer in someway

Major publicity and crowd funding?

Sure, if crowd funding existed then it could easily be a scam. Or if they are using it to get investor money (which AFAIK they don't, but could easily be wrong).

It is also possible that they developed this to try and get jobs are legit companies. That is maybe sort of a scam, but it is a little unclear if they are actually scamming people who wishlisted the game.

[Gel]

I dont know how some of you have even 'invested' time into a product that only has a store page?

Damn, half the forums are saying this is a scam as the twitter is dead (not enough investment) and the other half are saying this is a scam as I've invested my time into it.

If you felt you've invested into a product you can't buy, maybe that's your sign to take a moment away from the store page. Or maybe not pin your entire consumer mind on one game. There's a whole steam store out there.

[Covert Cactus]

A scam implies that you paid and/or invested money and got nothing in return. You paid nothing and got nothing so you weren't scammed. This is vaporware.

[ThotsBContagious]

Covert Cactus a écrit :

A scam implies that you paid and/or invested money and got nothing in return. You paid nothing and got nothing so you weren't scammed. This is vaporware.

You can still call things a scam without paying. If its an attempt to fool you or take $

Its really no brain teaser to see how rupert murdoch scammed people.. you're gullible af.

[Breakfast At Gimlis]

ThotsBContagious a écrit :

Covert Cactus a écrit :

A scam implies that you paid and/or invested money and got nothing in return. You paid nothing and got nothing so you weren't scammed. This is vaporware.

You can still call things a scam without paying. If its an attempt to fool you or take $

Its really no brain teaser to see how rupert murdoch scammed people.. you're gullible af.

It was not an attempt to take your money. Not yet at least. Fool you into what? Tricking someone isn't a scam.

Words have meaning. There are many you can apply to this game, most of which are accurately pejorative. But it is not a scam. Being clear and precise about how we describe things is important.

[VAIZ0R]

You want a scam/fraud, go play Call of Duty

[Evil Dead 75]

you don't know what you're talking about. no one has been scammed by this dev

[cergames]

Mister Evil is so smart he know what he talking about XDDDD continue to encourage this kind of "game" they tease you for something and you get nothing XDDDD you all must be american ♥♥♥♥ eater

[Breakfast At Gimlis]

cergames a écrit :

Mister Evil is so smart he know what he talking about XDDDD continue to encourage this kind of "game" they tease you for something and you get nothing XDDDD you all must be american ♥♥♥♥ eater

Why are you so upset about this? Does it matter if it is a game or not? Nobody has been charged anything, nobody has lost anything, why are you so pressed about it?

Or is it that you are mad that people correctly pointed out you don't know what the word scam means?