what am i doing wrong? (mobile version)

[Icedfate]

okay. .i've been playing the ipad version of this for 3 days now. I beat Helmut and the game rolled me back to day 1 and i'm working my way through the dungeon and i get to the warped ones on B2 and i can't bea them., they are just too strong, they do aoes that just destroy the entire party in 1-2 hits and have thousands of hp.

my party is
lanavaille (special) level 20
olive level 20
main level 24
debra 20
alice 24
asha 24

these guys are impossible. . and my xp grinding spots are all locked behind this wall now.

i'm not sure what to do. I don't know where to find more ore to upgrade my equipment. it's all +4, except olive had a dagger of undead slaying +8 (that's where all my ore went. . )

the only place that has any ore is the guild points exchange, but i don't want to have to spend all my poojnts on ore when i'm saving up for the legendary asventurer pull.

i don't know where to get more guild tags to raise the other 3 members level caps. . .(oh, but of course, i can always buy them with a microtransaction. . .WTF did i think this game wouldn't be P2W. . of course it is. . )

am i now stuck having to fight goblins on b1 for 100xp per battle. .. or the red spinner for 64 xp at a time?

[Perrin]

Only fight one. The NPC will give you the option. Fighting both will wreck just about anyone at that point.

[Icedfate]

yeah, okay. i fought just the one and barely won. the guy hit lana for 131x2= 262 one shotting her from full hp.

the main character revive ability is almost impossible to use, the speed of it combined with the tiny circle, i always fail twice before it slows down enough to time it. so if my front row gets aoed and 2 people die, my mc can't even revive them because as soon as i try, i fail and he dies too.

anyway, i made it past, but i thought i was "supposed" to fight them both myself as part of the groundhog day time loop. I ended up failing that anyway, because i forgot to turn in the quest to get the scented satchel and failed the negotiations with Captain Lou Albano.

i'm nit "stuck" anymore, but i still don't know where i' supposed to get the guild tags to raise the character levels and the ores to upgrade my gear without paying real money for them

[Sarissofoi]

>He said he can take both

[リュータ]

guild tags can be obtained by dismissing adventurer. Ore from den of earth.

[based]

Reset the clock

[Damon]

I saw this on reddit and someone said they are like 30 lvl. So maybe just a trap laid by devs for the sake of being hardcore.

[リュータ]

Originally posted by Damon:

I saw this on reddit and someone said they are like 30 lvl. So maybe just a trap laid by devs for the sake of being hardcore.

double fight level is scaled and give achievement. But it can be done later when strong enough

[Berucross]

Tags are time gated. Weekly missions, log in etc. Sometimes URGENT missions with tags pop. If you need ASAP you can dismiss adventures. But if you take your time you do NOT need to dismiss adventures. You ONLY need to pay IF you want to rush as any other game. But why the rush? Take your time man.

OBS: you can NOT brute force here as beginner. Most time you have to look at other options as the game itself is about it (and once you can brute force something you may earn 20 gems or something like this).

[Icedfate]

so, it's basically, if i can't do something right now, just wait longer. okay. standard fare for a gacha game. i usually don't play these. i'm just ill, stuck in bed with my mobile device, unable to play my "real" games on PC.
i am a fan of the Wizardry series, so i decided to give this a try. i really don't want to have to sit here for 3 years grinding just to get anywhere though.

[Perrin]

Originally posted by Icedfate:

so, it's basically, if i can't do something right now, just wait longer. okay. standard fare for a gacha game. i usually don't play these. i'm just ill, stuck in bed with my mobile device, unable to play my "real" games on PC.
i am a fan of the Wizardry series, so i decided to give this a try. i really don't want to have to sit here for 3 years grinding just to get anywhere though.

I've been playing 3 months and I have 8 level 60 characters. There is some waiting involved, but it's really not that bad.

[Berucross]

There are times they pop some URGENT missions that give tons of tags. However again if you are in a hurry dismiss some named adventure (not legendary). A few used for tags will not kill you in the long run. Soon or later you will have a lot of them and will use a lot to inherent. You can farm bones later to make up the adventures used for tags or just keep saving gems and once you have enough to pity and have a character you like go all in. In this crossover I went all in (about 35k gems) and got a lot of characters (and use them all to inherent).

https://wizardry.fasterthoughts.io/appendices/respawning-bone-locations/

There is the bone seller in abyss 1 and 2 and in abyss 3rd a boneman that sells bone too. I guess the sellers are weekly to refresh. Mausoleum people said about every 2 week or something like that?

[Icedfate]

okay. it looked like i couldn't farm the bones, i went back to all the places and they just "dissolve" and the game told me i can't have them again because i already got them.
according to that link, it says i can get them once a month(?) yeah, this is one of "those" games.

it's okay for now, as long as i'm making some kind of progress. i just figured out clas changes and now i'm grinding xp on main character to get him back up to 30.

[SkamX]

you dont need to fight both trees at once. just kill the 1 tree like before. the 2 tree fight just gives an ingame achievment

[Icedfate]

yeah. . i thought that was hard, how about right after beating helmut the second time, there's a request to fight "strong monsters" where he was and i go there and there's 3 encounters i have to clear one after another, all in one go and the first encounter is
2 ents + 3 warped ones all at once. . and there's 3 encounters i have to clear one after another all in one go.

i managed to beat the first encounter, but it drained all my resources and there's still 2 more encounters. how is this even possible? i'm level 30 and barely won just the one fight. . and leveling up isn't gonna make it any easier of they just keep on leveling with me.
meanwhile, the one guy above says "oh this game is easy, not overtuned at all. . ." yeah, right.

they sit in the back, behind the warped ones doing poison breath, hits 3 members for 150 damage. poison breath, poison breath poison breath poison breath poison breath poison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breath

and for some reason, these ones can't be stunned so i can't skip their turns

[Perrin]

Originally posted by Icedfate:

yeah. . i thought that was hard, how about right after beating helmut the second time, there's a request to fight "strong monsters" where he was and i go there and there's 3 encounters i have to clear one after another, all in one go and the first encounter is
2 ents + 3 warped ones all at once. . and there's 3 encounters i have to clear one after another all in one go.

i managed to beat the first encounter, but it drained all my resources and there's still 2 more encounters. how is this even possible? i'm level 30 and barely won just the one fight. . and leveling up isn't gonna make it any easier of they just keep on leveling with me.
meanwhile, the one guy above says "oh this game is easy, not overtuned at all. . ." yeah, right.

they sit in the back, behind the warped ones doing poison breath, hits 3 members for 150 damage. poison breath, poison breath poison breath poison breath poison breath poison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breathpoison breath

and for some reason, these ones can't be stunned so i can't skip their turns

That fight is clearly designed to be done later. I came back and beat it once I had leveled up in Abyss 2 for a while. There's nothing forcing you to do it immediately. Many quests are quite difficult when you first get them. This game is very old school that way--back in the day, if we got slaughtered by something, we knew it was because we were meant to come back later. So come back later.