about the DLC's on hard mode

[Rukashu]

i started on hard mode with DLC off , so its being really hard to reach level 10 since i can't even do the story quests, i just got the fiveth character and its really hard to grind for xp in the early game maps, i was with 3k gold but sometimes i die and i lose all again....
so....
restart the game using dlc ou lose more hours grinding for xp in the forest?

[Bankaizero]

It's up to you but it'll only get harder as the generations go. I think Gen 1 is the easiest cause you have Ellis and Leo. I would say just tough it out but if you want you can restart with DLC and have easier time for Gen 1 to mid way Gen 3.

[Rukashu]

Originally posted by Bankaizero:

It's up to you but it'll only get harder as the generations go. I think Gen 1 is the easiest cause you have Ellis and Leo. I would say just tough it out but if you want you can restart with DLC and have easier time for Gen 1 to mid way Gen 3.

"easy" is not the word, hard mode its insane, sometimes two turns with combo attacks to kill monster, and i'm still llvl 5, but thanks, people said we can craft the DLC weapons later on, i was only trying not to play with the DLC thinking it would ruin my experiencie, but not using DLC is making the game longer for all that grinding and stuff

[Rukashu]

Originally posted by Flaezon:

You need to spend some time leveling up your team while you are in dungeons, I learned this the hard way, if you have played pokemon before you know that you have to level up before an important fight, it's kinda logical.

o know, but there's no dungeon for me to do that, i only enter on that forest after the first shop in the game and try to kill lvl 1-3 monsters, i die a lot in the quests and dont have money to ress

[shaneh87]

This game is really hard. I originally played this back on the PS3 and struggled on normal mode. The first 2 generations are relatively easy. But Gen 3 is when the game starts to test you. If you're struggling at the start of the game i'd suggest dropping the difficulty down.

[Rukashu]

Originally posted by shaneh87:

This game is really hard. I originally played this back on the PS3 and struggled on normal mode. The first 2 generations are relatively easy. But Gen 3 is when the game starts to test you. If you're struggling at the start of the game i'd suggest dropping the difficulty down.

thanks, i think i will do that otherwise i will never play the game again haha

[shaneh87]

Originally posted by Rukashu:

Originally posted by shaneh87:

This game is really hard. I originally played this back on the PS3 and struggled on normal mode. The first 2 generations are relatively easy. But Gen 3 is when the game starts to test you. If you're struggling at the start of the game i'd suggest dropping the difficulty down.

thanks, i think i will do that otherwise i will never play the game again haha

To be honest most of the bosses in the game are just plain stupid. It seems like you're meant to just sit there watching your characters get destroyed in 1 attack until you build enough AP to unleash one big barrage of special attacks. If you somehow fail to kill the boss in that massive onslaught you may as well just restart the fight. As by the time you recover for another shot at them they've already recovered all their HP with the stupid life regen item all the bosses seem to have.

[Rukashu]

Originally posted by shaneh87:

Originally posted by Rukashu:

thanks, i think i will do that otherwise i will never play the game again haha

To be honest most of the bosses in the game are just plain stupid. It seems like you're meant to just sit there watching your characters get destroyed in 1 attack until you build enough AP to unleash one big barrage of special attacks. If you somehow fail to kill the boss in that massive onslaught you may as well just restart the fight. As by the time you recover for another shot at them they've already recovered all their HP with the stupid life regen item all the bosses seem to have.

ok...

[Hasefrexx]

Originally posted by Rukashu:

Originally posted by Flaezon:

You need to spend some time leveling up your team while you are in dungeons, I learned this the hard way, if you have played pokemon before you know that you have to level up before an important fight, it's kinda logical.

o know, but there's no dungeon for me to do that, i only enter on that forest after the first shop in the game and try to kill lvl 1-3 monsters, i die a lot in the quests and dont have money to ress

You should not die too much. Just keep in mind that, at the begining, Leaonhardt and Borgnine are the only characters that should be exposed to damage. You can use either spells with casters if you want to keep them away from danger, or trick hit to move them around, that way you can get them to a safe spot by targetting an isolated ennemy that you'll kill in the combo.

As for money, you have two main sources in the begining: titles and silver ore. You can get a lot of ore by overkilling, so make sure to do that. To max out your damage and make sure you overkill you will want to use combined attacks only after the break gauge is down to 0, it will increase the amount of hits from the combined attack.

Originally posted by Rukashu:

"easy" is not the word, hard mode its insane, sometimes two turns with combo attacks to kill monster, and i'm still llvl 5, but thanks, people said we can craft the DLC weapons later on, i was only trying not to play with the DLC thinking it would ruin my experiencie, but not using DLC is making the game longer for all that grinding and stuff

You should be able to kill 1 monster 1st turn, when your AP is fairly low. If you can't, you're probably not using the combo to the best, or not improving your equipment enough. Level 5 items allow you to destroy the item to get something that will let you smith a better version.

[Scyris]

Originally posted by Rukashu:

Originally posted by Flaezon:

You need to spend some time leveling up your team while you are in dungeons, I learned this the hard way, if you have played pokemon before you know that you have to level up before an important fight, it's kinda logical.

o know, but there's no dungeon for me to do that, i only enter on that forest after the first shop in the game and try to kill lvl 1-3 monsters, i die a lot in the quests and dont have money to ress

Go into the "Quest" maps, those explorable dungeons, they do not cost turns no matter how long your in there or how much you fight.

As for money, once your at a certan point you can buy vessels of life for 25 tp in the tp shop, these sell to a vendor for 50k gold each, so once you hit that point money becomes a non-issue. In Gen 2 you can get a combo one of the cat lady monsters can do that does 72 hits on a broken target, which nets you almost 20 tp by itself. Before then as mentioned silver ore is going to be your main money maker.

[Scyris]

Originally posted by Bankaizero:

It's up to you but it'll only get harder as the generations go. I think Gen 1 is the easiest cause you have Ellis and Leo. I would say just tough it out but if you want you can restart with DLC and have easier time for Gen 1 to mid way Gen 3.

Pretty sure you keep ALL characters and monsters, except for the main hero and her 3 possible brides. from each generation, so you'll always have ellis and vira-lorr in your party. Its kinda a double edged sword though, because if you build thme right, those previous gen chars will be vastly more powerful than anything in the current gen. I build Vit early on every char, especaly on hard. Earlier you do it, the better. Its not retroactive but. you get base vit x3+lv x2 max hp per level. On hard your chars will never have enough def really, so going for max is the way to go to survive. This is without the dlc stuff, but even with the dlc items, they are only op till probally the send of gen 2, maybe a bit into gen3, then you can start making stuff thats as good or better.

I honestly hate Gen 1 in every Agarest game, because it just feels like a slog due to how limited you are combo wise and such as most of the skills to form the nice combo attacks aren't till gen 2 and up.