Can't win the fight against Justice.

[soulxhawk]

I am having trouble with the Justice fight despite having over 2280 attack power, fully upgraded stats, fully upgraded gadgets, most of the agent section upgraded, and fully leveled and bonded team with only 1 silver fighter. I read the you need to use the Yazuka style to win, is that true? Is I were to buy the DLC would having Majima, Saejima, and Daigo greatly help with the fight?
My problem isn't so much that Justice's laser beam kills me it is that the other 2 kings have so much HP and Justice keeps using heal so we never have time to just focus on Justice. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Rumitus]

DPS race.

Though I'm sure there's more elaborate answers in the one or two times this has been asked in the past.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2375550/discussions/0/3958161899239941576/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2375550/discussions/0/3958162455100533691/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2375550/discussions/0/3958162152962836710/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2375550/discussions/0/3958162152963540527/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2375550/discussions/0/3958162152970179630/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2375550/discussions/0/3958162152967419282/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2375550/discussions/0/3978428732563235368/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2375550/discussions/0/3958162152970461379/

[Dustorm]

Get the chicken fighter, raise it to max, use it instead of Kiryu. His strong attack chains and his heat attack does a ton of damage.

You can buy him from the recruiter on the second floor of the casino.

[a passerby]

I used primarily agent style. The final unlockable heat move does a ton of damage to multiple targets. The machine gunner fighters will also make things a lot easier

[At@At]

I legitimately had very little issue in that fight because I was already maxed out by the time I got there. The only issue I had was that I died to the laser the first time because I didn't know what it was. I literally just focused down Justice with the Yakuza style. Just go beast mode by holding down the normal attack button until Joryu glows and release. Repeat 3 times because it's a 3 hit combo and repeat. U out damage the heal and he'll die before a second heal comes up. If u're really scared throw out some heat moves.

[Rumitus]

Originally posted by At@At:

I legitimately had very little issue in that fight because I was already maxed out by the time I got there. The only issue I had was that I died to the laser the first time because I didn't know what it was. I literally just focused down Justice with the Yakuza style. Just go beast mode by holding down the normal attack button until Joryu glows and release. Repeat 3 times because it's a 3 hit combo and repeat. U out damage the heal and he'll die before a second heal comes up. If u're really scared throw out some heat moves.

Yeah, this doesn't work reliably. You'll usually run out of time. You got lucky.

[At@At]

Originally posted by Rumitus:

Originally posted by At@At:

I legitimately had very little issue in that fight because I was already maxed out by the time I got there. The only issue I had was that I died to the laser the first time because I didn't know what it was. I literally just focused down Justice with the Yakuza style. Just go beast mode by holding down the normal attack button until Joryu glows and release. Repeat 3 times because it's a 3 hit combo and repeat. U out damage the heal and he'll die before a second heal comes up. If u're really scared throw out some heat moves.

Yeah, this doesn't work reliably. You'll usually run out of time. You got lucky.

I mean if u're saying it doesn't work reliably then u're also saying it does work some of the time, which is still better then the OP not being able to win at all. The OP just needs to win once.

[Rumitus]

Originally posted by At@At:

Originally posted by Rumitus:

Yeah, this doesn't work reliably. You'll usually run out of time. You got lucky.

I mean if u're saying it doesn't work reliably then u're also saying it does work some of the time, which is still better then the OP not being able to win at all. The OP just needs to win once.

Obviously, that's why I linked threads. Many of them actually had better answers with better odds. I'm simply saying with that meathead strat, you got lucky.

I personally tried that "strat" if you can call it that, multiple times before I felt forced to switch. I'm sure if I kept going I would get there eventually, but to what end? You can also try using Chicken Man to mow him down, or try taking out goons first, strategizing heat actions to eliminate goons first etc. Your "strat" might work as it is often luck based, but browsing the other threads genuinely tells the OP how overtuned this fight is in comparison and gives better answers than banging their head against a brick wall until some cracks appear.

[At@At]

Originally posted by Rumitus:

Originally posted by At@At:

I mean if u're saying it doesn't work reliably then u're also saying it does work some of the time, which is still better then the OP not being able to win at all. The OP just needs to win once.

Obviously, that's why I linked threads. Many of them actually had better answers with better odds. I'm simply saying with that meathead strat, you got lucky.

I personally tried that "strat" if you can call it that, multiple times before I felt forced to switch. I'm sure if I kept going I would get there eventually, but to what end? You can also try using Chicken Man to mow him down, or try taking out goons first, strategizing heat actions to eliminate goons first etc. Your "strat" might work as it is often luck based, but browsing the other threads genuinely tells the OP how overtuned this fight is in comparison and gives better answers than banging their head against a brick wall until some cracks appear.

Maybe u were just very very unlucky lol? I didn't even realize that I was thinking about the wrong fight because I thought the op was talking about the fight on the roof with the robots when laser beam was mentioned because it was the only rumble fight I died in. I beat that justice fight in my first try and it didn't make much of an impression on me. I don't think it matters about luck when it's just Joryu doing 90% of the damage. My build was just the highest damage gear possible that didn't subtract defense. So golden underwear, silver underwear, the dragon god amulet from Akame and something else. I didn't go in there with any heat and just won the fight with more than enough wiggle room in time for me to disagree about luck, reliability and running out of time. I don't even remember what clan members I brought in because I didn't focus on team comp at all. I do remember that they weren't all maxed out and bonded because I was still grinding their levels and bonds.

[Rumitus]

Originally posted by At@At:

Originally posted by Rumitus:

Obviously, that's why I linked threads. Many of them actually had better answers with better odds. I'm simply saying with that meathead strat, you got lucky.

I personally tried that "strat" if you can call it that, multiple times before I felt forced to switch. I'm sure if I kept going I would get there eventually, but to what end? You can also try using Chicken Man to mow him down, or try taking out goons first, strategizing heat actions to eliminate goons first etc. Your "strat" might work as it is often luck based, but browsing the other threads genuinely tells the OP how overtuned this fight is in comparison and gives better answers than banging their head against a brick wall until some cracks appear.

Maybe u were just very very unlucky lol? I didn't even realize that I was thinking about the wrong fight because I thought the op was talking about the fight on the roof with the robots when laser beam was mentioned because it was the only rumble fight I died in. I beat that justice fight in my first try and it didn't make much of an impression on me. I don't think it matters about luck when it's just Joryu doing 90% of the damage. My build was just the highest damage gear possible that didn't subtract defense. So golden underwear, silver underwear, the dragon god amulet from Akame and something else. I didn't go in there with any heat and just won the fight with more than enough wiggle room in time for me to disagree about luck, reliability and running out of time. I don't even remember what clan members I brought in because I didn't focus on team comp at all. I do remember that they weren't all maxed out and bonded because I was still grinding their levels and bonds.

Dude, you're just wrong. Read the 10+ threads on this fight and the hundreds of Reddit threads on it. You were an exception and that's fine.

[At@At]

Originally posted by Rumitus:

Originally posted by At@At:

Maybe u were just very very unlucky lol? I didn't even realize that I was thinking about the wrong fight because I thought the op was talking about the fight on the roof with the robots when laser beam was mentioned because it was the only rumble fight I died in. I beat that justice fight in my first try and it didn't make much of an impression on me. I don't think it matters about luck when it's just Joryu doing 90% of the damage. My build was just the highest damage gear possible that didn't subtract defense. So golden underwear, silver underwear, the dragon god amulet from Akame and something else. I didn't go in there with any heat and just won the fight with more than enough wiggle room in time for me to disagree about luck, reliability and running out of time. I don't even remember what clan members I brought in because I didn't focus on team comp at all. I do remember that they weren't all maxed out and bonded because I was still grinding their levels and bonds.

Dude, you're just wrong. Read the 10+ threads on this fight and the hundreds of Reddit threads on it. You were an exception and that's fine.

All I'm saying is that it's probably a lot better than you're making it out to be lol. I'm sure there's better more optimal strats depending on skill, strengths, progression in the story, etc. Whatever works for the op works. It's not as if it costs them much time since they're already almost there anyways. As for the whole read 10+ threads on the fight and hundreds of Reddit threads on it... So like the less than 1% of people who played the game and specifically the people who struggle with the fight? All talking about their own experience and strats? It's the nature of the internet and how numbers work. If what I said worked even 1% of the time and every single person who did it posted then u'd have thousands of posts agreeing with me even if we were all an exception.

[Nightflash]

How is this even as issue? I played on hard, didn't grind and still got it first time without doing anything special. I had Daigo, Saejima and Majima and I guess they make a big difference in that case.

[Xirce]

For my fights, I pretty much grinded money and some XP for fighters to make them max level and maxing their bonds. Joryu's damage was also completely maxed out via the upgrades, and I had the Golden Underwear.
For the people I used, I had Sheep Man, Chicken Man, Saejima, Majima, Kaito, Sugiura, Higashi, Daigo, Mr. Masochist, and Sodachi.
I usually entered fights with at least a few bars of heat and did the one heat action as Agent that did damage to multiple enemies, run around and spamming some hornets and maybe a cigerrate bomb, then switch to Yakuza style for big damage.
The only issue I had with the fight is that the 2nd King, dude with the jet shoes, can dodge a TON of attacks and is a general annoyance. Get rid of all the basic enemies, then focus on the kings. I personally went for the clown dude then Justice, then speed dude, but if the healing form Justice is an issue, go for Justice first.

[Voileipä]

Had to look help first because I also couldn't defeat him at first. But here's what I did:

I used all 10 gold rank fighters you can get in the game (didn't have any dlc ones), maxed their levels and bonds (level 20 and bond 3), played as Kiryu (I had maxed Kiryu's attack and health, also the Kiwami ones), used Yakuza fighting style and my gear was attack and defence boosting mainly, I think I had also something that resisted bleeding (dunno if it helped in the match though but just wanted to mention it).

First I took the clown dude down first (someone said it's a good tactic, probably because of his attacks and drones), after that I focused on beating Justice while my other fighters were beating the 2nd king and other enemy fighters. Also I used extreme heat mode every moment in the match I could to deal as much damage as I could.

[OnePixelShort]

The fight is pretty much a DPS check. Like others have said don't be afraid to control other fighters like Chicken-Man, Sheep-Man & Keita Kuroyanagi (You get this guy from the gang Substories) & abuse their heat moves. They make trivial work of the higher HP enemies & to be honest after Justice the rest of the fights get pretty easy, Justice is there mainly to teach you to use other characters from time to time.