GOG

[DH]

This game looks great, but I'm hoping that this game is also released on GOG.
I'd much prefer buying games on GoG than Steam.

[L.Brown]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

Sorry, but being so meticulous and wanting to say that you only acquire a license may be technically/legally correct, but is practically not relevant at all because, as written, you can simply do what you want with the .exe file.

Technically, I can do what I want with the .exe file for any game. Even ones with DRM. Such as, I don't know... crack them? Really, nothing prevents me from making almost any game with DRM DRM-free, barring edge cases like Denuvo or always-online games. Nothing but laws and the software license. So it's important to understand that the actual files stored on a device of yours are nearly irrelevant for what you're under law allowed to do with your software, including passing on the license.

I know that, didn't you read what I wrote? "You are technically/legally correct", but that is not the point. Making a game DRM-free is nothing everybody does or even want to do, because you need files and programs and, most important, you should know what you do and where you get these things. Because of that I wrote "simply do what you want". Cracking DRM is not simple for everyone, but right-click->copy->start is simple...

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

It's a red herring as GOG doesn't do anything else for you when it comes to software ownership or the licenses they sell you. The only thing they do is not allow DRM on their store. That's it.

Yeah, and that is the big thing which let them stand out in comparison to other stores, that this is a must-have to bring your game(s) to their store.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

With Steam this is possible with some games (without additional effort), but with GOG it is possible with all of them. And that is the point.

What you're trying to achieve by bringing every other game from Steam that has DRM to the discussion is absolutely beyond me.

Really? You can't just imagine why someone is bringing up a fundamental point into the discussion to substantiate the argument? I don't want to buy a game just to look if it is DRM-free (Steam) when there could be a possibility for just knowing it when you buy it (GOG).

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

We're talking about this game and making requests to this developer. And if they were to release on GOG, they'd also have no reason to not make it DRM-free on Steam other than to screw over their Steam customers

And this would be so unrealistic? It hasn't to be on purpose just for doing it nonetheless.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย GrimLordGames:

Even if a game gets delisted, it's still in my library to freely download.

Same as everywhere else

P.T. says hello...

[Schorsch Wadschinken]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

I know that, didn't you read what I wrote? "You are technically/legally correct", but that is not the point. Making a game DRM-free is nothing everybody does or even want to do, because you need files and programs and, most important, you should know what you do and where you get these things. Because of that I wrote "simply do what you want". Cracking DRM is not simple for everyone, but right-click->copy->start is simple...

I read what you wrote. But "This is simple and this is hard" was never a point of contention and it's fairly subjective anyhow, rather that's something that you inserted. In fact, I would argue that most people would download games from the GOG launcher rather than the website, too. Downloading the installers and all the additional files and then preparing them so your kids know what to do with them is actually relatively complicated if you've ever tried that before, especially with updates. You kinda have to know what you're doing. All the while, using a Steam emulator isn't much more complicated either, you just download the .dll file and put it in the game folder for virtually any Steam game, that's usually it, very straightforward. And so you can, and especially with DRM-free Steam games, do the same thing with Steam.

But again, the problem is that the discussion was about "I can put a game on my hard drive and give it to my children after I die" while arguing legal stuff along with it, when there is no actual legal difference between GOG and Steam. This needed to be made clear, whether you like it or not, because people have been conflating this in this thread. So again, don't bring this to me, there's people misinformed about this and unfortunately using it to form their argument. I would have ignored it otherwise.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

It's a red herring as GOG doesn't do anything else for you when it comes to software ownership or the licenses they sell you. The only thing they do is not allow DRM on their store. That's it.

Yeah, and that is the big thing which let them stand out in comparison to other stores, that this is a must-have to bring your game(s) to their store.

But this is completely irrelevant to the actual point of contention. Why do you keep on this yet become really irritated I clear up what game licenses are? Seems a little hypocritical.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

What you're trying to achieve by bringing every other game from Steam that has DRM to the discussion is absolutely beyond me.

Really? You can't just imagine why someone is bringing up a fundamental point into the discussion to substantiate the argument? I don't want to buy a game just to look if it is DRM-free (Steam) when there could be a possibility for just knowing it when you buy it (GOG).

Yeah, really. You're asking the developers here. If they say "Yes, the game will be DRM-free everywhere", then there you go. You don't need to "figure it out", and you don't need it to be on GOG if your goal is to have it DRM-free. I'm not sure if you're even remotely logically following the situation we're in here.

This is kind of like if you had a bully and your goal was that they stop bullying you. So you decide to make a plea. Your plea is that you ask them to move to a different country so they can't bully you anymore.

Why not just ask them to stop bullying you instead of this roundabout request? Especially since your proposed solution leaves us with unsatisfied parties (for the sake of argument, the bully doesn't want to move), as your request indicates you're fine with Steam customers having to deal with DRM while it's DRM-free on GOG, which is unfair.

Hence it makes little sense and the request is not straightforward, bearing an unfortunate, misinformation-laden assumption that Steam couldn't have DRM-free games (it would seem that way for other people new to gaming and reading threads like this at the very least). I genuinely don't want any game to end up in a situation where it has DRM on one platform but not on another, and the fact that GOG advocators are seemingly fine with that outcome rubs me the wrong way, too. Why NOT request the game to be DRM-free period? You just make yourself come across as a GOG fanboy, IF you are aware of this but just detest Steam enough to not even bring it up.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

Same as everywhere else

P.T. says hello...

When I said everywhere else, it was still within the context of the other big PC stores that we were talking about, i.e. Steam and Epic. P.T. is PlayStation / console




To shed more light on the situation I'd like to point out that I follow the StopKillingGames campaign closely, and while its goal is to let people have ownership over their purchased game licenses, and leave the games in a functional state of course, at no point is it said that a platform like GOG is required to achieve this goal. Everything else would indeed be misinformation. You'll find a lot of people who are aware of DRM unfortunately parroting "You need GOG, there's no other way, you only own your games on GOG", and that's misinformation that is getting more and more on my nerves the more I see it repeated everywhere. You're not getting to invalidate purchases on other platforms like that. It's not true. Neither Steam nor Epic mandate DRM, nor should the eventual outcome of DRM be that you lose access to your purchases. GOG isn't the ultimate solution, what we need is updated legislation that mandates customers can keep playing their games they paid for.

Any other benefit of the GOG platform IS NOT the point of contention and IS NOT something I EVER argued against. I'm frustrated with them refusing to support Linux, but otherwise I like them.

[L.Brown]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

I know that, didn't you read what I wrote? "You are technically/legally correct", but that is not the point. Making a game DRM-free is nothing everybody does or even want to do, because you need files and programs and, most important, you should know what you do and where you get these things. Because of that I wrote "simply do what you want". Cracking DRM is not simple for everyone, but right-click->copy->start is simple...

I read what you wrote. But "This is simple and this is hard" was never a point of contention and it's fairly subjective anyhow, rather that's something that you inserted.

What? Subjective? No, sorry, but comparing to download any files, which you found in the internet, to modify your game/folder instead of just downloading and installing the install package of the officiall launcher is, for me, objective more user-unfriendly/harder/riskier.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

In fact, I would argue that most people would download games from the GOG launcher rather than the website, too. Downloading the installers and all the additional files and then preparing them so your kids know what to do with them is actually relatively complicated if you've ever tried that before, especially with updates.

What in the world should be complicated? O_o

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

You kinda have to know what you're doing. All the while, using a Steam emulator isn't much more complicated either, you just download the .dll file and put it in the game folder for virtually any Steam game, that's usually it, very straightforward.

You seem to forgot/read over about the other thing which I wrote, because "complicated" was not the only one: You have to know where you get these (not really legal) things, and with this things it starts to get a little bit more complicated than just starting/handling with an installation folder/exe.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

But again, the problem is that the discussion was about "I can put a game on my hard drive and give it to my children after I die" while arguing legal stuff along with it, when there is no actual legal difference between GOG and Steam.

And again, aren't we long over the point of legal stuff?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

This needed to be made clear, whether you like it or not

I already said that you are right with that, how many times do we want to talk about it?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

But this is completely irrelevant to the actual point of contention. Why do you keep on this yet become really irritated I clear up what game licenses are? Seems a little hypocritical.

See the points before, we seem to have it in common to bring up points which have already been discussed xD.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

Yeah, really. You're asking the developers here.

No, not really, or do you see a response here in this thread for nearly a month?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

Hence it makes little sense and the request is not straightforward, bearing an unfortunate, misinformation-laden assumption that Steam couldn't have DRM-free games (it would seem that way for other people new to gaming and reading threads like this at the very least). I genuinely don't want any game to end up in a situation where it has DRM on one platform but not on another, and the fact that GOG advocators are seemingly fine with that outcome rubs me the wrong way, too. Why NOT request the game to be DRM-free period? You just make yourself come across as a GOG fanboy, IF you are aware of this but just detest Steam enough to not even bring it up.

...
Phew...
Ok, I try to be calm. And again: I don't know if a game is DRM-free on Steam, how many times do I have to say this ? It's not the point if games can be DRM free on Steam (I have never denied that!), because if I don't see it before I buy it, then the whole discussion is obsolete.
(And please, you can save your framing with some fanboy accusations and stick to arguments, or are you start to missing them?)

[Schorsch Wadschinken]

I am getting extremely tired of this. Stop replying to me, and arguing with me, about things I never said. Argue this among yourself, praise GOG all day every day but leave me the hell out of this; I don't care!

A guy said: They want this game on GOG so it can be DRM-free and they can own the game, not just access to it.

I corrected them saying that games can be DRM-free on Steam and that you always buy access to games.

That's IT. That's all I said. Then another person jumped in for that last person and argued a bunch of things I never said (clearly out of ignorance about what DRM-free and game ownsership is, however), and then you jumped in for THAT person and argued a bunch of things I never said. I don't care that you like installers from the source, I don't care that you think you know games are DRM-free on GOG, I don't care that you feel you can put games on a hard drive and give them to someone else after you die, I don't care where games can be downloaded after being delisted, I don't care what you think is user-friendly or risky, I don't care, I don't care, I don't give a flying ♥♥♥♥, I never said any of these things! They don't relate to DRM or legal game ownership! I made absolutely no other point other than that! Stop arguing this with me!
For crying out loud!




That said, there's some... erroneous stuff in that last reply I have to address else I'd go insane:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

Yeah, really. You're asking the developers here.

No, not really, or do you see a response here in this thread for nearly a month?

...then WHAT makes you think they're listening to you and putting it on GOG??? You expect THAT to happen but NOT a reply to questions??? Logic please?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

Ok, I try to be calm. And again: I don't know if a game is DRM-free on Steam, how many times do I have to say this ?

When you ask the developer to make a game DRM-free and they say YES or NO, then you don't know whether it's DRM-free?
WHAT?
...WHAT??
---WHAT???

Also, the sake of completeness/information, you can check https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Home and look up whether a game is DRM-free

[L.Brown]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

I am getting extremely tired of this. Stop replying to me, and arguing with me, about things I never said. Argue this among yourself, praise GOG all day every day but leave me the hell out of this; I don't care!

But your answers and reactions here tell a different story! :D
(And again, where do I praise GOG? O_o I just said that every game there is DRM-free. This is just a fact, no praise, or are you already thinking up things that I have never said, but criticizing others for doing exactly that?)

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

A guy said: They want this game on GOG so it can be DRM-free and they can own the game, not just access to it.

I corrected them saying that games can be DRM-free on Steam and that you always buy access to games.

That's IT. That's all I said.

Then another person jumped in for that last person and argued a bunch of things I never said (clearly out of ignorance about what DRM-free and game ownsership is, however), and then you jumped in for THAT person and argued a bunch of things I never said.

Yeah, quoting another person of course always means that the person never said that, I forgot...

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

I don't care that you feel you can put games on a hard drive and give them to someone else after you die

Huh, never said. Are you sure you don't mean yourself with my previous quote from you?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

I don't care where games can be downloaded after being delisted, I don't care what you think is user-friendly or risky, I don't care, I don't care, I don't give a flying ♥♥♥♥, I never said any of these things! They don't relate to DRM or legal game ownership! I made absolutely no other point other than that! Stop arguing this with me!
For crying out loud!

But you waste a remarkable amount of text and energy for not caring...

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

No, not really, or do you see a response here in this thread for nearly a month?

...then WHAT makes you think they're listening to you and putting it on GOG??? You expect THAT to happen but NOT a reply to questions??? Logic please?

Are you serious? They (for example, the publisher) could read comments and don't respond (because they are not the developers), quite easy. So hard to imagine?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

Ok, I try to be calm. And again: I don't know if a game is DRM-free on Steam, how many times do I have to say this ?

When you ask the developer to make a game DRM-free and they say YES or NO, then you don't know whether it's DRM-free?
WHAT?
...WHAT??
---WHAT???

Yeah, WHAT is exactly what I'm thinking after reading your comments...
How should I know if it's DRM-free when the developer don't react?
Do you already forgot what you wrote?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

You're asking the developers here. If they say "Yes, the game will be DRM-free everywhere", then there you go. You don't need to "figure it out"

So here we have the case to figure it out by ourself, when the developer doesn't react, no? Do you understand it now? If not, read your own comments please...

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

Also, the sake of completeness/information, you can check https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Home and look up whether a game is DRM-free

Typed in the first 5 games of my wishlist + Nikoderiko, found just 2 (and not Nikoderiko). So yeah, sometimes yes, sometimes not it could be a help.
But thanks for that nevertheless! (Never thought of saying this after this whole discussion!^^)

[Schorsch Wadschinken]

I'm not reading this. Stop replying to me and putting ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ words in my mouth, and I mean all of you. I'm trying to prevent an ENDLESS chain of people playing the telephone game with each other while arguing with me. I mostly blame the second guy that took over because it appears they had their own cute definitions of what DRM-free is and what game licenses are. I merely tried to correct the misinformation BUT NEVER made any arguments against other benefits of the GOG store. I just kept saying those had nothing to do with DRM.

They can make the game DRM-free on Steam so GOG isn't required for that, and games are sold in the form of licenses, including on GOG. That's it. That's all the claims I made. Stop replying to me if you want to talk about anything else

[L.Brown]

Interesting: You claim the right not to reply to the thread creator and to reply to someone else instead, but you deny others this right? Sure, you can do that, but then you shouldn't be surprised if you get a counter...

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

I'm not reading this. Stop replying to me and putting ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ words in my mouth

Show me where I have done this, will be interesting to see! :D

[Schorsch Wadschinken]

I can't fix your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reading comprehension so there is nothing I can do or say. If you continue the discussion two people had, which was already a continuation of a different discussion, and all of you fail spectacularly to understand the context, then this is what happens.

You literally told me that I shouldn't explain to someone how game licensing works, when THEY STARTED talking about game licenses and how they own the game on GOG. Then you told me that the point is that you know a game is DRM-free on GOG. There is no universe where that was ever the point to anything I ever said. All of you replying to me without understanding or bothering to read the original context are just digging a deeper hole of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ responses to things I never said. As I said, like some twisted telephone game where each person continuing the discussion becomes more and more clueless to what the point even was, and what I actually replied to. So I'm ending this.

[L.Brown]

More and more strong language, which of course fully confirms your absolutely factual and correct line of argument...xD

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

I can't fix your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reading comprehension so there is nothing I can do or say.

Thanks for proving my point with continuing by not responding to my question to show the quoted passages!

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

If you continue the discussion two people had, which was already a continuation of a different discussion, and all of you fail spectacularly to understand the context, then this is what happens.

And again, for you:
"Interesting: You claim the right not to reply to the thread creator and to reply to someone else instead, but you deny others this right? Sure, you can do that, but then you shouldn't be surprised if you get a counter..."

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

You literally told me

That should make the proof of a passage easy, shouldn't it?^^

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

that I shouldn't explain to someone how game licensing works

Who accused whom of twisting someone's words again?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

All of you replying to me without understanding or bothering to read the original context are just digging a deeper hole of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ responses to things I never said.

I quoted you, but you don't seem to be able to quote me when I'm asking you. But I'm not surprised, strong language is a wonderful sign of running out of arguments...

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

So I'm ending this.

Mmh, didn't I read that before?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

I don't care!

You seem to care, so it will be exciting to see if you keep your word this time. My guess? No xD

[Schorsch Wadschinken]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

Sorry, but being so meticulous and wanting to say that you only acquire a license may be technically/legally correct, but is practically not relevant at all

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

Who accused whom of twisting someone's words again?

Nope, didn't twist anything. Perhaps English isn't your strong suit, or you forgot what you said, but this is indeed telling me I shouldn't explain how game licenses work... in a discussion about game ownership, mind you.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

If you continue the discussion two people had, which was already a continuation of a different discussion, and all of you fail spectacularly to understand the context, then this is what happens.

And again, for you:
"Interesting: You claim the right not to reply to the thread creator and to reply to someone else instead, but you deny others this right? Sure, you can do that, but then you shouldn't be surprised if you get a counter..."

Yes, thanks for reminding me that you put words in mouth. Even after you quoted me and it says nothing remotely like you claim it says. Cool beans. Like I said, if your reading comprehension is this bad, what am I supposed to do?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

I don't care!

You seem to care, so it will be exciting to see if you keep your word this time. My guess? No xD

I do care... about you putting words in my mouth, which makes this statement most ironic. Because, as you do, you're putting words in my mouth regarding me not caring about you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ting me which I never said. Quoting someone doesn't mean you're innocent if you so blatantly rip those words away from their context.

[L.Brown]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

Sorry, but being so meticulous and wanting to say that you only acquire a license may be technically/legally correct, but is practically not relevant at all

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

Who accused whom of twisting someone's words again?

Nope, didn't twist anything. Perhaps English isn't your strong suit, or you forgot what you said, but this is indeed telling me I shouldn't explain how game licenses work...

Haha, wow, Ok, so I said that you are correct and then I put my thoughts into it, and this is, for you, twisting your words? Wow, just wow, and then you tell me I can't read xD.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

And again, for you:
"Interesting: You claim the right not to reply to the thread creator and to reply to someone else instead, but you deny others this right? Sure, you can do that, but then you shouldn't be surprised if you get a counter..."

Yes, thanks for reminding me that you put words in mouth. Even after you quoted me and it says nothing remotely like you claim it says. Cool beans. Like I said, if your reading comprehension is this bad, what am I supposed to do?

Maybe remember things better? Is this so hard that I have to quote you every time?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

I don't care that you feel you can put games on a hard drive and give them to someone else after you die

Huh, never said. Are you sure you don't mean yourself with my previous quote from you?

Please tell me when my comments are to long, then I can make them shorter so you don't forget what I wrote and that you put words in my mouth. Literally (I mean, look at my quote from you), and not just from an interpretation (like you)...

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

You seem to care, so it will be exciting to see if you keep your word this time. My guess? No xD

I do care... about you putting words in my mouth, which makes this statement most ironic.

Aha, let's see:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

So I'm ending this.

Interesting way of ending things! Or did I just put words in your mouth, even with this quote? Seriously, I don't know anymore xD.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

Because, as you do, you're putting words in my mouth regarding me not caring about you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ting me which I never said. Quoting someone doesn't mean you're innocent if you so blatantly rip those words away from their context.

You say there are out of context, I say there are not. And when I see your reactions and strong language then I feel safe for being right actually. Another example which I already brought up:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย L.Brown:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

I am getting extremely tired of this. Stop replying to me, and arguing with me, about things I never said. Argue this among yourself, praise GOG all day every day but leave me the hell out of this; I don't care!

But your answers and reactions here tell a different story! :D
(And again, where do I praise GOG? O_o I just said that every game there is DRM-free. This is just a fact, no praise, or are you already thinking up things that I have never said, but criticizing others for doing exactly that?)

Jep, still true, you put words in my mouth and don't even say something about it, even when I draw your attention to this, so sad...

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

A guy said: They want this game on GOG so it can be DRM-free and they can own the game, not just access to it.

I corrected them saying that games can be DRM-free on Steam and that you always buy access to games.

That's IT. That's all I said.

And? I never said that you are wrong?

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

Then another person jumped in for that last person and argued a bunch of things I never said (clearly out of ignorance about what DRM-free and game ownsership is, however), and then you jumped in for THAT person and argued a bunch of things I never said.

Bringing up points into a discussion don't have to be about just the things already said. That's what you call a discussion. It was about licences, and I added that you're right, but that there are still differences. That's it. That's all I said. And then you get so involved and see things somewhere that aren't there, insult people here, use strong language there, etc. etc.

And seriously: Since you're throwing around expletives here, what's with the friend invitation? So that I can read through your accusations again in the chat?

[Schorsch Wadschinken]

Dude, I'm just blocking you at this point. Thanks and come again.

Acquire some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reading comprehension. Stop putting words in people's mouths.

[L.Brown]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

Dude, I'm just blocking you at this point. Thanks and come again.

Acquire some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reading comprehension. Stop putting words in people's mouths.

Haha, no arguments left I guess? Because the "putting words"-thing is getting old, especially if you do it more often than I do. xD.

[Schorsch Wadschinken]

I literally added you clown on Steam so we can figure out where the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ comprehension problem is but obviously you just ran away. "The point is that we know games are DRM-free on GOG" was never the point that anyone made at any time whatsoever, I don't know what you were babbling about but that's how quickly things go haywire. You just can't read. You live in your own universe, apparently.

[L.Brown]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

I literally added you clown on Steam so we can figure out where the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ comprehension problem is but obviously you just ran away.

On a factual level of course, but not after you behave like a child here and throw around swear words and insults. Grow up first, then we can have a personal discussion.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Thornskade:

You just can't read. You live in your own universe, apparently.

Seems both true for you, too, as I showed several times.
And the blocking seems to work absolutely fine I see, or do you (again and again...) say something and then forget about it?