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Because DRM free and you actually own the game, not just the access to it.
DEnuvo plz
1) If people likes the game and it will prove to be respectful of its costumers time and money, there is nothing to fear, heck, I even know of people who buy the same games on multiple platforms and services if given the chance (I'm one of them).
2) It is common knowledge pirates can crack DRM games within less than a week so having one would ultimately only be detrimental for those who buy it legit
3) Denuvo is probably the worse DRM of all known to cause performance issues on top of everything else
4) Games with DRM (especially terrible ones like Denuvo) are ironically the most pirated exactly because people don't want to deal with DRM
You own the game as much as you do anywhere else; it's a license to play it, even on GOG
If they want the game to be DRM-free then they can make it DRM-free on Steam and Epic as well. It is not required to put a game on GOG just to do so
If it sounds like I hate GOG (I don't except for the part where they don't want to support Linux and the Steam Deck) it's because I have to correct this misinformation so much
That's false. Because with GOG I have an offline installer that works on pretty much any operating system with maybe a few tweaks later down the road, and yes - Linux. GOG does have Linux versions of games there too, you have to look around. Also, on GOG it is natively DRM-Free. There will be an offline installer for it. I can carry those installers with me from device to device to device throughout the years. They've even stated that their games will work in a bunker if need be. The thing about having a GOG offline installer is that I don't just get a license. Even if a game gets delisted, it's still in my library to freely download. But even then, I still have the offline installer executable. No one can take them away from me unless they put a gun to my head and demand the files. If it sounds like I hate Steam, it's because I have to correct this misinformation so much. 😉
Why should GOG support Steam Deck? It's not a GOG product. If you want games to work on Steam deck, buy from Steam and leave us to our DRM-Free offline installer files. Thanks.
This is not what "supporting Linux" means. And given the issues I had with Hogs of War (it doesn't work on Windows 10+ and neither on Windows 98, which it was designed for), buying that on GOG can leave you with a broken product since the fixes they applied just make it not work anywhere but Windows 8 as far as I know. That's just bad design. Eventually in the future you're left with installers that are broken everywhere but very specific versions of Windows. This solutions is definitely not perfect
This is not what "native" means. DRM-free is DRM-free
Yes, you get just a license
Same as everywhere else
Even on Steam and Epic, you have the installed files, which you can turn into an installer executable yourself if you want to. No one can take them away from you unless they put a gun to your head and demand the files.
You didn't correct anything, you just said some other things that didn't actually relate to things I said. Or rather, you're displaying the misconceptions I intended to clear up in the first place. You have an offline installer? Congrats and all that but an installer is just packaged files. You can take installed games and reverse them into an installer. There is virtually no difference
It's a PC!!! that ships with Linux. GOG should support Linux. My biggest criticisms of them is how much they hammer down on DRM-free and all that but then they're so inconsequential about it. Not supporting an open operating system, requiring their Galaxy launcher for multiplayer or even allowing developers to strip out the multiplayer from their games in the first place.
Then what's the damn difference? Honestly? If you don't need a platform to register it on, nor the internet, then it isn't just a license. It's a full on install that I could play on Mars if I wanted to. You can't do that with Steam. Steam has to be running for a lot of games. I do use Steam, I know how it works. Way I see it, it is ownership of my files that I can pass on after my death via a hard-drive. Even GOG just confirmed in a statement that we can do that. Steam? Nope. GOG even said they'll work with legal teams to ensure your games can be passed on/inherited in the event of your death. Something Steam and EGS both said no to. So when it can go beyond me, I can install it on anything I want pretty much and I don't have to be on the internet, it goes beyond being just a platform license, like with Steam that can be taken away from you at any time. If in the case of a company that can ban you from your account and all your paid for games because you used naughty language in a voice chat. I've seen it happen.
Not here! With GOG, I don't have to have an internet connection, nor a platform and I think you can even install to a VM on a mobile device because I've tried that. DRM-Free literally means "they can't stop you from playing it" in my book. Now when the robo gaming police units from 2050 get involved, that may be different. But for now, there is no consequence of ownership when it comes to GOG. Have I made myself clear or do I need to speak in Spanish? I will warn you, it's not very good. I only know the words for shoes, computer and bathroom. 😆
You do, you have to have a GOG account and your game is registered to that account before you can download it
It is just a license. Software is always a license. You buy a license.
Software itself is nothing but machine code, it's your drive arranging its 1's and 0's and your processor executing this code. Software is very different in nature from physical products, hence they sell you a license to use it. And legally speaking this license does dictate certain things, such as private use only or how many machines you may run it on simultaneously.
Yes, you can. Full-on installed Steam games without DRM can be played on Mars and without Steam running.
We are not talking about "a lot of games". We are talking about DRM-free games.
Yup, DRM-free games can do that. This is irrespective of GOG, Steam or any other platform.
This has nothing to do with DRM. What they say is also irrlevant, it's laws that matter at the end of the day, and your personal morals. There's nothing stopping you from copying the game files to every other computer in the world right now, so what you would actually pass on after your death is the software license. Not the files.
No, it doesn't. Software is always sold as a license, period
DRM-free games cannot be taken away from you at any time irrespective of platform
News to me, but again, this cannot happen with DRM-free games. Doesn't matter whether Steam or Epic ban you, as long as the game is installed
Yes. And the same is true with DRM-free games from Steam, Epic and anywhere else.
While what you think it means is irrelevant, I have to once again remind you that the platform you get a DRM-free game from does not matter.
No need to make condescending remarks. The problem is that you conflate various different concepts that have nothing to do with what DRM is or isn't (i.e. getting an installer executable from the source, which is a nice bonus, but has nothing to do with DRM). In addition, for some reason you completely lost the thread with this reply and just talked about every game that has DRM versus GOG, when the point is that games can be DRM-free on any platform, including Steam; it's not necessary to put a game on GOG to do so, GOG just happens to enforce DRM-free games in its store, just not perfectly in all cases.
So if you keep missing the point like that this is just going to keep being a waste of time. As far as I'm concerned I'm advocating for games to be DRM-free everywhere, rather than asking for the game to come to GOG instead because that is very much an indication of a surface-level understanding on the subject matter. Steam and Epic don't enforce DRM, they merely allow it. Since this game is coming to Steam, they have the power to release it DRM-free here.
If it isn't relevant in your opinion then I'm not the person to bring this up to. The only reason I'm meticulous about it is because I (partially) agree with you and I'm trying to bury it by clearing up what software licenses are. If you recall, the first person to bring this up claimed without DRM you own the game, not just access to it, which is just as absolutely wrong as you can possibly be. The other person thinks games would be passed on via a hard drive instead of transferring the actual license.
So this isn't unimportant at all. Technically, I can do what I want with the .exe file for any game. Even ones with DRM. Such as, I don't know... crack them? Really, nothing prevents me from making almost any game with DRM DRM-free, barring edge cases like Denuvo or always-online games. Nothing but laws and the software license. So it's important to understand that the actual files stored on a device of yours are nearly irrelevant for what you're under law allowed to do with your software, including passing on the license.
It's a red herring as GOG doesn't do anything else for you when it comes to software ownership or the licenses they sell you. The only thing they do is not allow DRM on their store. That's it.
No, that's not the point. Somebody asked to release this here game on GOG so it may be DRM-free. But releasing it on GOG is not required to make it DRM-free. That is the point. What you're trying to achieve by bringing every other game from Steam that has DRM to the discussion is absolutely beyond me. We're talking about this game and making requests to this developer. And if they were to release on GOG, they'd also have no reason to not make it DRM-free on Steam other than to screw over their Steam customers
Nobody is whining.
I didn't say anything remotely like that.
I'm not complaining.
This has absolutely NOTHING to do with anything that has been discussed here.
Maybe acquire some reading comprehension. That usually helps. The lack thereof explains why the points you're making have been such an incoherent mess that don't relate to the discussion at all. Seriously, do you have any idea at all what this was originally about? Because from your response it sounds like you believe I'm trying to argue that the game shouldn't release on GOG which is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥