Curse of Darkness remake/remastered

[majingogiga]

With this Dominus collection actually existing I think it's actually possible that this can also happen for the only 3D perspective Castlevania game that really felt like a Metroidvania, but I'm gonna be seriously pissed off if they changed Hector and the yandere show off that is Isacc with their coward counterparts in Netflix. They are just really disappointing as characters in the Netflix show. But I hope to have Carmilla and the giant armored lesbian vampire called Striga as optional boss fights (so being external to the plot), because both them and us deserve a worthy fight, they have the potential to be an interesting fight.
What do you think?

[benjymlewis]

I think Curse of Darkness has incredibly poor level design. It's flat and boring and consists of mostly long corridors with not a whole lot going on. And Hector's movement speed is so extremely slow to the point where the game isn't that fun. And I dislike just how much grinding it takes to actually interact with the Innocent Devil system. The game is one of the least-fun games in the entire Castlevania series for me.

But even despite all of this, I still think it would be a great idea for Konami to port the 3D games to Steam and other modern platforms. I love the Castlevania series so much, even the mediocre ones, that I'd love to see them all receive the same love and care that the GBA and DS games got with these two collections. And hey, the amazing bonus Haunted Castle Revisited shows us that pretty much anything can happen to any of the games. If they made a new version of Curse of Darkness with more interesting level design and less grinding, I'd absolutely play it right away, that sounds great to me. :D

[majingogiga]

Originally posted by benjymlewis:

I think Curse of Darkness has incredibly poor level design. It's flat and boring and consists of mostly long corridors with not a whole lot going on. And Hector's movement speed is so extremely slow to the point where the game isn't that fun. And I dislike just how much grinding it takes to actually interact with the Innocent Devil system. The game is one of the least-fun games in the entire Castlevania series for me.

But even despite all of this, I still think it would be a great idea for Konami to port the 3D games to Steam and other modern platforms. I love the Castlevania series so much, even the mediocre ones, that I'd love to see them all receive the same love and care that the GBA and DS games got with these two collections. And hey, the amazing bonus Haunted Castle Revisited shows us that pretty much anything can happen to any of the games. If they made a new version of Curse of Darkness with more interesting level design and less grinding, I'd absolutely play it right away, that sounds great to me. :D

And that is exactly why I hope for a remake, I personally loved the game but I felt the lack of fun of some rooms too, and yes the excessive grinding for familiars too, so yeah a new version that fixes these things like the one you describe sounds fantastic.
And I also really want to see an HD version of the Liquid Golem (and perhaps the Devil type being actually offensively valid for bosses).

[Soren]

I don't know, Hector got done dirty on some level. But Issac in the netflix show was better off.

I don't think the PS2 games would get remade though. Castlevania doesn't sell enough for remakes to be profitable. Most we can hope for is re-releases. And personally I'd like to see a Harmony of Despair re-release on the PC/Steam instead. But a PS2 Castlevania collection wouldn't be a bad thing imo. Both games together, 20/30/40 bucks. It'd be a good deal.

[majingogiga]

Originally posted by Soren:

I don't know, Hector got done dirty on some level. But Issac in the netflix show was better off.

I don't think the PS2 games would get remade though. Castlevania doesn't sell enough for remakes to be profitable. Most we can hope for is re-releases. And personally I'd like to see a Harmony of Despair re-release on the PC/Steam instead. But a PS2 Castlevania collection wouldn't be a bad thing imo. Both games together, 20/30/40 bucks. It'd be a good deal.

Well I would hope they at least reimagined it a bit, with at least some changes in some enemy placement, making Hector a little faster, and fixing the excessive familars grinding.
I suppose that I could buy an eventual Ps2 Castlevania collection even just for this.

[Teominious]

Given the fact:

- they're both still absent from modern consoles

- Haunted Castle, a game I'm reasonably sure only 5 people liked, was remade

- and Konami also has Silent Hill 2 (2024) + Metal gear Solid Delta lined up

...I'd say it's much more likely both Rondo of Blood and Symphony of the Night are next in-line for the "Re-do this game!" treatment but then, HAunted Castle Revisisted is a thing, so anything's seemingly possible at this point.

I've had hopes for either a CV 3D collection (with Legacy of Darkness and/or 64, Lament of Innocence, and Curse of Darkness since the Advance collection came out, but my hope was not for a full remake,rather, them adding a New Game + to curse, such that one can use the Death Scythe and Laser Swords for more than just the final boss.

I would not object to remakes of the 3D games, though, because that way the graphics of Legacy could be brought to the standard of the other games, and janky character handling of Lament could be corrected.

Only time will tell, what happens though, I just hope it won't take another 3 years for everyone to find out.

[Ȼħⱥꞥꞥēł8753452]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who wants curse of darkness

I think they'll do something similar to the vol 1 MG collection

[burn1none]

I would absolutely love Curse of Darkness even if it’s just a port. I don’t really think the levels and speed are so bad honestly I’m surprised people dislike those aspects so much. And yeah it’s the best 3d one as far as metroidvanias feel so it’d be great to get it without using an emu.

Isaac is the one that got done dirty imo, he had a cool design and they race swapped him and completely changed the character for no reason, they did the same thing with Annette and Olrox in the new show. I’m all for representation or whatever but just make some new characters I don’t see any reason to change existing ones and completely change their backstory and motivations.

[Soren]

Originally posted by burn1none:

Isaac is the one that got done dirty imo, he had a cool design and they race swapped him and completely changed the character for no reason

I don't know. His original design seemed like a japanese boy band idol. It felt out of place for the setting imo. I still liked the boss fight against him very much. Especially that insane aristocracy song that plays during the fight. So I can see why people like the character. Great game, great boss fight.

I personally felt Hector was the one done dirty. New Issac was still pretty cool, badass even from my perspective. New Hector no longer had that deep Crispen Freeman voice, and also got bullied and pushed around a lot. On top of being endlessly naive.

[burn1none]

Originally posted by Soren:

Originally posted by burn1none:

Isaac is the one that got done dirty imo, he had a cool design and they race swapped him and completely changed the character for no reason

I don't know. His original design seemed like a japanese boy band idol. It felt out of place for the setting imo. I still liked the boss fight against him very much. Especially that insane aristocracy song that plays during the fight. So I can see why people like the character. Great game, great boss fight.

I personally felt Hector was the one done dirty. New Issac was still pretty cool, badass even from my perspective. New Hector no longer had that deep Crispen Freeman voice, and also got bullied and pushed around a lot. On top of being endlessly naive.

Don’t get me wrong I may disagree and like the original design of Isaac but I agree the Netflix character of Isaac was fantastic. I just wish he would’ve had a different name, I kinda hate how Netflix does a fine job making new characters for the shows but then for some reason completely alters other characters for some agenda they try to push. We got a great Isaac in the show but it’s all but guaranteed we’ll never get the Isaac from the game which I feel is an overall confusing decision. Yeah I agree it would’ve been better if Hector wasn’t pushed around so much but I guess in my head canon that might be why he’s so strong willed and determined in the game because he’s trying to push past that trauma.

Overall I really like the Netflix shows but they do tend to have a baffling approach of removing key characters like Grant and adding completely redone characters like Saint Germaine and Isaac while also doing an almost exact copy of others like Richter, Trevor, Sypha, and Maria. Just no consistency. I’d rather instead of changing existing characters they just created new ones.

[Bluedini]

A 3D collection of games including all of the PlayStation and N64 games would be such a dream! They could make the bonus game be the Dracula X Chronicles for the PSP oooooor if they really wanna get funky, they can remake Castlevania Legends for no reason at all but for our own amusement!

[Shiroka]

Lament of Innocence was more interesting and somewhat of a predecessor to Lords of Shadow how gameplay and levels looked similar to an extent

Only true negative critic was that the game had no Level Up System and thus fighting enemies outside of rooms which were mandatory are just mostly "optional". I skipped lots of fights later on since you had no rewards for doing so.

Dracula Boss Fight in CoD was awesome though.

[Prolophis]

Originally posted by majingogiga:

With this Dominus collection actually existing I think it's actually possible that this can also happen for the only 3D perspective Castlevania game that really felt like a Metroidvania, but I'm gonna be seriously pissed off if they changed Hector and the yandere show off that is Isacc with their coward counterparts in Netflix. They are just really disappointing as characters in the Netflix show. But I hope to have Carmilla and the giant armored lesbian vampire called Striga as optional boss fights (so being external to the plot), because both them and us deserve a worthy fight, they have the potential to be an interesting fight.
What do you think?

I think it would be a great idea.
Although they are "unfortunately" rightly undervalued, the 128 bit editions were exceptional in their own way; they had an excellent combat system, soundtracks worthy of SOTN, and also, wonderful atmospheres.
But in particular, the curse of darkness, in my opinion, had the incredible merit of transposing SOTN into 3D, with which it has a lot in common, except for the two protagonists, who are actually quite different and have different battle skills.
Then it's true, the title has gaps and defects, so obvious, that it's useless for users to come here and list them.

[PremiumR98]

not hapennening bro, at best, we are getting sotn and rondo ports since they are so popular and after that, who knows, maybe we'll get a new game

[Lu2]

V in dmc 5 plays similary as hector . golem in dmc 5 resebles golem in curse of darkness haha . which is weirdly in dragon dogma too

are there any other games with golems that shoot lasers ?

[Dr. Raven]

Originally posted by benjymlewis:

I think Curse of Darkness has incredibly poor level design. It's flat and boring and consists of mostly long corridors with not a whole lot going on. And Hector's movement speed is so extremely slow to the point where the game isn't that fun. And I dislike just how much grinding it takes to actually interact with the Innocent Devil system. The game is one of the least-fun games in the entire Castlevania series for me.

But even despite all of this, I still think it would be a great idea for Konami to port the 3D games to Steam and other modern platforms. I love the Castlevania series so much, even the mediocre ones, that I'd love to see them all receive the same love and care that the GBA and DS games got with these two collections. And hey, the amazing bonus Haunted Castle Revisited shows us that pretty much anything can happen to any of the games. If they made a new version of Curse of Darkness with more interesting level design and less grinding, I'd absolutely play it right away, that sounds great to me. :D

I'm surprised these are the issues people have with the game. Personally I don't mind the movement speed, doesn't feel that much different from Lament Of Innocence's movement speed, but yeah level design is corridor city and big wide open areas which would influence your desire for higher movement speed.

I'd say a bigger problem for me is while the game can be grindy to interact meaningfully with the innocent devil system, I don't mind grind, in fact I love it. The actual issue I have is the base game is so easy it's a waste to grind and interact with that system. Crazy mode exists but by the time you finish the base game to unlock it, you're already as good at the game as you'll most likely ever be and it won't be a challenge.


Lament of Innocence is just overall the much much better game, despite lacking a fun rpg system that I desire.