Publicado originalmente por 76561197970302595:

Surprised that people actually believe and buy into the bull that Johan & Co keep feeding the masses year after year after year. They are quite comfortable on their repeating cycle of releasing shoddy DLC's, then fix some of the bugs in a half assed manner and then repeat the cycle and giving new projects to new interns at new studios so that they can milk the masses some more and all this packaged in a glorified PR stunt a la Pdox.

Really wished Pdox had direct competition to blow them out of the water and make way for newcomers since their "Golden Age" has come to an overdue end.

Hear hear. Paradox has become a soulless corporate husk.
Corporations do really seem to ruin everything they bloody touch.

the future of Europa Universalis 4 is just more DLCs and mini DLCs for those DLCs forever.

So PDX ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up during the last years. I want to change my mind, but it is hard to believe that this can work without making EU5, because in my opinion they totally broke the game.

What clearly is needed: DLCs that offer additional content and not bandages for heavily damaged mechanics brought in with free updates. A good DLC is something that nobody needs, but many want (sorry for my bad english, if I ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the grammar too hard). What is not needed: New mechanics that create the need for DLCs.

And what I really hate: Buying a DLC for 20 Bucks for one feature and one feature only (Estates in Cossacks DLC) and then get stolen the feature. Whatever you offer instead is worth nothing. Imagine you order Pizza, pay for it and get French fries delivered instead. Nothing wrong with French fries, but if I order and pay a Pizza, I never ever want French fries instead.

This gives me some confidence eu5 wont be announced soon. good.

That said paradox's dlc model is garbage. Look at total war on how to do it properly. maybe you can arrange a meet with the CA guys. They can teach you how to make DLC and you can teach them how to make a decent game.

Publicado originalmente por Dindomir:

I for one don't want EU 5, because I sunk a lot of money in EU 4 and CK2 and then CK3 came out, which I will now probably never play. The focus on bug fixing sounds great, keep it up guys!

I totally agree, but for me EU4 is totally broken, It is almost no fun to play and multiplayer is dead.

But yeah, with the money I payed for PDX games during two decades I could buy a new car. That is why I hate, what PDX does to us. They won't be that big studies without their fan base who stick with them from the very beginning.

Publicado originalmente por Zajda:

Publicado originalmente por dTox N1ck:

Why is everyone so concerned with EU5? The game still holds up and plays phenomenally.

it's 2013 game, and it's reaching it's technical limits, it will still run, but it will bottleneck more and more
engine update would be enough but johan said engine update won't happen, so 64bit update is all we get

they could make EU 5 without mana, with pops or population, with natural disasters, new trade system, game using more than 50% of 1 core, more dynamic game (eu4 is originaly tabletop game), new technology system, laws, custom units etc.

Very true but this "Mysterious" game that might be announced at the end of May might not even be a grand strat title anyways or even even EU5 since again there still is some areas of the map untouched/in need of remaking but with the subscription service announcement I do see EU5 coming maybe next year, this game as you said is at its technical limits. I for one sort like the mana system though I would want it redone in a way like imperator where you can just influence your provinces or cities and I also would love to see the whole map on the imperator engine, would look so beautiful! Still, lets hope this game gets more love before that happens just to make it a worth while game like CK2.

Publicado originalmente por Art:

Very happy for more support of EU4, no reason to have EU5 if we can continue to improve EU4. People will only complain if you bring EU5 out like you did with CK3 with missing content etc.

Yeah, CK3 is basically beautified CK2 without features.

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Nobody:

Publicado originalmente por Dindomir:

I for one don't want EU 5, because I sunk a lot of money in EU 4 and CK2 and then CK3 came out, which I will now probably never play. The focus on bug fixing sounds great, keep it up guys!

I totally agree, but for me EU4 is totally broken, It is almost no fun to play and multiplayer is dead.

But yeah, with the money I payed for PDX games during two decades I could buy a new car. That is why I hate, what PDX does to us. They won't be that big studies without their fan base who stick with them from the very beginning.

Although very unlikely, I do hope they start just making bundles at this point.
Edit: I mean mega bundles where its most DLC with a half price or overall make some bundles cost less, again unless EU5 gets announced anytime soon this might not happen.

Most of the features here could literally be done by modders. Monuments are cool, but that's not worth paying 20 dollars for. This can be seen as a flavour pack instead of a proper expansion.

Publicado originalmente por Zajda:

Publicado originalmente por dTox N1ck:

Why is everyone so concerned with EU5? The game still holds up and plays phenomenally.

it's 2013 game, and it's reaching it's technical limits, it will still run, but it will bottleneck more and more
engine update would be enough but johan said engine update won't happen, so 64bit update is all we get

they could make EU 5 without mana, with pops or population, with natural disasters, new trade system, game using more than 50% of 1 core, more dynamic game (eu4 is originaly tabletop game), new technology system, laws, custom units etc.

That would be great. I was hoping leviathen was the last DLC, but I wouldn't mind flavour if they overhaul East Asia so that the religions are accurate. Otherwise, I don't think I'm going to purchase any future DLC's that simply focus on regions.

Publicado originalmente por Jimmy:

This gives me some confidence eu5 wont be announced soon. good.

That said paradox's dlc model is garbage. Look at total war on how to do it properly. maybe you can arrange a meet with the CA guys. They can teach you how to make DLC and you can teach them how to make a decent game.

It does seem that way but like they said in their blog posts, there are still a few areas in need of some flavor or mission trees to make this game a "Finished" title or worth buying DLC for.

Publicado originalmente por Bullet:

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Nobody:

I totally agree, but for me EU4 is totally broken, It is almost no fun to play and multiplayer is dead.

But yeah, with the money I payed for PDX games during two decades I could buy a new car. That is why I hate, what PDX does to us. They won't be that big studies without their fan base who stick with them from the very beginning.

Although very unlikely, I do hope they start just making bundles at this point.

They could be fair and make something like season pass. You pay once a year for the latest features (get all DLCs and keep it). So the fans buy it every year and if you have a break for 3 or 4 years, come back, you don't have to pay 100-150 bucks to get the missing DLCs, just buy the latest season pass and get everything missing.

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Nobody:

Publicado originalmente por Bullet:

Although very unlikely, I do hope they start just making bundles at this point.

They could be fair and make something like season pass. You pay once a year for the latest features (get all DLCs and keep it). So the fans buy it every year and if you have a break for 3 or 4 years, come back, you don't have to pay 100-150 bucks to get the missing DLCs, just buy the latest season pass and get everything missing.

True, but a better way is to just get a $60 version of the and just get all the DLC, or at this point just make the 3 years old dlc just cost less.

Yesterday I sold my old car, thought I pick up the DLC's I've been missing... Realized I'm 200$ short... Please tell me what's the future of Eu4?

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Just found out that again I have to wait until my ban expires. Bloody hell.