Any way to deal with aggressive expansion penalty?

[Highlander]

Title?

[sevensided]

Just time and patience.

[Highlander]

Lol, ill need my deck of cards

[Highlander]

im just worried hungary is gonna jump on me (after being all nice with me) cause ive been recovering provinces from the ottomans, which by the way are pretty much a wreck by now, thanks to me and my coalition buddies, im playing as byzantium by the way

[thinking]

Or have your Personal Union partner (don't think vassals work) capture all the provinces and take the heat, then annex him when the time is right. :)

Do remember aggressive expansion penalty is region-only (stealing Mesoamerican gold and land doesn't anger the Europeans at home)... so as long as you manage that properly and only anger people from one region, you'll avoid wars on multiple fronts.

[Hat8]

You get less aggression if you vassalize your enemies and absorb them later.

[kulmnar]

It's BS, aggresive expansion penalty is designed to prevent humans from winning...the way to deal with it...don't expand...go the colonial route...yeah boring!

[Devolth]

Originally posted by kulmnar:

It's BS, aggresive expansion penalty is designed to prevent humans from winning...the way to deal with it...don't expand...go the colonial route...yeah boring!

isn't that the job of the AI's to do?

[Xandurz]

Originally posted by kulmnar:

It's BS, aggresive expansion penalty is designed to prevent humans from winning...the way to deal with it...don't expand...go the colonial route...yeah boring!

Would you rather conquer the world in 10 minutes of gameplay, oh let me guess, your opinion still would be "boring" but for another reason.

For the OP:
I just finished the game as Byzantium yesterday, and as some already pointed out found that in europe it was kind of hard to get out unnoticed (I left recovering ancestral lands on hold untill I had alliance with GB ), but whatever you do on the other side of Marmara, stays on the other side of Marmara (europeans don't really seem to care how you slice and dice the muslims).

[Bandit17]

As others have said smart and powerful use of diplomacy along with focusing your expansions in one region at a time will net you long term gains.

[Highlander]

im guessing anatolia is still part of europe? cause hungary is getting mad at me for expanding to the east

[Inky]

Expand less aggressively.

[Hewlett]

Currently waiting for 33 years to get in good terms with my old pal France... and 78 years to be-friend my old pal Castile who decided to change his name to Spain.

[sevensided]

There is a map mode for regions. Its good for managing regional expansion worries.

[Talonmaster]

Dont even bother worrying about Hungary. They are a toothless threat considering the neighbors they have. I have yet to see Hungary survive at all let alone blob. Also, Poland and Lithuania are eager to be my friend in my ERE playthough. Either of them can take Hungary down fairly easy from what I've seen.

[bradypp]

I expanded too far, west, east and south in one war as denmark and got austria and france teaming up on me on ironman mode. Gameover :(