Europa Universalis IV OR Victoria II

[Industrial7]

After giving Empire: Total war one last chance not to crash, I decided I needed a new grand strategy game, I narrowed it down to two options: Europa Universalis IV and Victoria II, I figured that anyone with EU IV probably has Victoria II, so which is better?

I want to know which has:
Least crashes
Better gameplay
Overall better.

I like the time setting for victoria II but can you just get mods to add it to EU IV?

Thanks!

[[Q]uik]

.... it all depends on what you want to do?
Victoria 2 has way more indepth ecnomical and political systems, and much more historical event based

While EUIV is.. different - the combat is much more large in scale (much more alliance based) - it has a lot more diplomacy and isnt as historically strict as V2 is, and is more about exploration too.
It's hard to recommend one or the other without knowing what it is you want.

[Brutt]

Europa Universalis IV better, Victoria 2 unsuccessful

[[Q]uik]

Granted, Victoria: Revolutions is a crapton better than V2 as far as combat goes, but V2 is much MUCH better as far as politics, industry and diplomacy goes - and historical event

[Costamortenho]

I love both games, but if you prefer the time setting of V2, go for it. It's a older game and that, in the Paradox world, means much more polished.

Also, they are very diferent. While V2 is focused on economic and population management (industralization, social classes and stuff) plus politics, EUIV is a more generic "nation building" game.

[bitcrusher]

Messaggio originale di Marcus Junius Brutus Caepio:

Europa Universalis IV better, Victoria 2 unsuccessful

Victoria 2 is successful, sorry if you are not successful at playing it. Victoria 2 has dlc, which means it was successful.
I actually prefer Victoria 2 to EUIV. With all the features of EU4, im pretty sure more people would enjoy the victoria series more.

[[Q]uik]

I would say that EUIV is a great introduction to the series, and it IS fun, but V2 is way more advanced - and thus, you might be scared off. It has a LOT more to learn and a lot more micromanagement

[Chuck Mangione]

Victoria 2. We are waiting for the third part, and now play in the Europa 4 :)

[Xenos]

They are good games, but please note that the timespan of victoria II feels too short. EU IV is much more of a epic game.

[[Q]uik]

i dont feel it feels too short, because of how much there's to do, i feel i have the game paused FAR more in V2 than in EUIV - and the time period in itself is perfect, and it feels muuuch more detailed than EUIV

[Industrial7]

If your wondering what type of game I want, it is one that is about conquering other countries and establishing an empire,and also diplomacy.

I am also a beginner to grand strategy games, I had Empire:total war, but it crashed and corrupted all my saves so I never got the chance to learn much.

[[Q]uik]

if you are a beginner then you may have a hard time with V2, given - both are hard to get into - I'd recommend EUIV if you don't want too much micromanagement, start with EUIV - where you dont have to bother with politics, infrastructure, industry, population etc. It's way deeper than EUIV - and EUIV is definitly much better if all you're looking for is conquering and diplomacy - with a bit of management.

[The.Leo]

If you are more used to the Total War seires I would say start with EU4 and then work your way into Victoria 2 (might want to also make a detour to CK2 as well, just to try it out if you haven't yet). Victoria is like slamming yourself into a brick wall until you finally understand how to go around it. Though, it is a fun brick wall.

[Nefaro]

I'm finding EU4 far more enjoyable than I ever did Vic2.

And that's what matters, no?

[Gelre]

Im working on Victoria Universalis Mod :) maybe a few of you would like it when it comes out

[bitcrusher]

vic2 is harder to learn, euiv first and then vic if u like euv