PU over france as england

[MiguelCairo]

so with the new branching missions, is the PU over france not possible with the normal great britain missions now? only angevin?

[RCMidas]

Essentially, yes. The British missions focus on the islands and colonisation. The Angevin missions focus on France, Germany, Spain, and Italy.

[Marquoz]

I think the Angevins are massively better than Britain, personally. Their national ideas and missions are both very, very strong. Stay Catholic and become Emperor for even more fun.

[RCMidas]

"...and then become HREmperor."

"Oi vey, would you listen to him O Lord? All he says is 'become HREmperor'. If life were up to him, we'd have nothing but HREmperors. Far be it from a poor schmuck like me to question you, Lord, but when you made a man that only says 'become HREmperor', you coulda instead made a man that says things you can't kvetch about. Not that there's anything wrong with being HREmperor, it ain't like it's chopped liver."

;)

[Kapika96]

It's still possible. Get it during the initial hundred years war after the surrender of Maine event.

[MiguelCairo]

Originally posted by Marquoz:

I think the Angevins are massively better than Britain, personally. Their national ideas and missions are both very, very strong. Stay Catholic and become Emperor for even more fun.

I agree Angevin seems better but I just did an Austria HRE run and I'm kind of tired from managing the HRE so I want to finish the great britain run the normal way

Originally posted by Kapika96:

It's still possible. Get it during the initial hundred years war after the surrender of Maine event.

ohhhh crap, I thought that might be the case. but I wanted to unite the isles before attacking france. I suppose annexing france is still a viable strategy just hard on admin points

[MiguelCairo]

Originally posted by Kapika96:

It's still possible. Get it during the initial hundred years war after the surrender of Maine event.

im assuming you get a popup event after occupying paris during the war if you dont back down from the surrender of maine event that triggers in the first few years? considering restarting based on this info thank you for the help

[dbond1]

Originally posted by MiguelCairo:

I suppose annexing france is still a viable strategy just hard on admin points

It can be, yes. I recently did Auld Alliance Reversed, where you must chop France up enough to vassalize as Scotland. And by the time I was able to turn my attention to the continent France had grown significantly and of course dev'd up a lot so straight annexation is prohibitively expensive. One good thing about these lands is that France contains a number of releasable vassals, and you should split your conquest between taking the juicy bits for yourself and feeding the rest to vassals to split the cost between ADM and DIP points. And then later you can integrate at your leisure.

[dbond1]

You have 3,800 hours, so yeah, you didn't need to be told this lol. I'm at 3,900 so right there with ya!

[Kapika96]

Originally posted by MiguelCairo:

Originally posted by Kapika96:

It's still possible. Get it during the initial hundred years war after the surrender of Maine event.

im assuming you get a popup event after occupying paris during the war if you dont back down from the surrender of maine event that triggers in the first few years? considering restarting based on this info thank you for the help

The war from the Maine event is a PU war, so it's a peace treaty option.

Ideally you should have an advance look at it 1 month after the war starts (earliest you can check peace treaties) to see which nations will join the coalition when you end the war with France as your PU. Then start improving relations to cut down that list as much as possible.

[Marquoz]

Originally posted by Kapika96:

Originally posted by MiguelCairo:

im assuming you get a popup event after occupying paris during the war if you dont back down from the surrender of maine event that triggers in the first few years? considering restarting based on this info thank you for the help

The war from the Maine event is a PU war, so it's a peace treaty option.

Ideally you should have an advance look at it 1 month after the war starts (earliest you can check peace treaties) to see which nations will join the coalition when you end the war with France as your PU. Then start improving relations to cut down that list as much as possible.

I believe you can check immediately, Kapika. But yes, this is good advice. Here's another tip: you can reduce the AE of the war by giving land to your allies. I would only do this in one case: Burgundy. If Burgundy doesn't rival you and you ally them prior to the Maine event, call them in with the promise of land and meet that promise by giving them a couple high-dev provinces like Reims.

You'll prevent coalitions by doing so and then later, if/when you get the Burgundian Inheritance, you'll get those provinces anyway.

[Sharpie The Dragon]

Originally posted by Marquoz:

Originally posted by Kapika96:

The war from the Maine event is a PU war, so it's a peace treaty option.

Ideally you should have an advance look at it 1 month after the war starts (earliest you can check peace treaties) to see which nations will join the coalition when you end the war with France as your PU. Then start improving relations to cut down that list as much as possible.

I believe you can check immediately, Kapika. But yes, this is good advice. Here's another tip: you can reduce the AE of the war by giving land to your allies. I would only do this in one case: Burgundy. If Burgundy doesn't rival you and you ally them prior to the Maine event, call them in with the promise of land and meet that promise by giving them a couple high-dev provinces like Reims.

You'll prevent coalitions by doing so and then later, if/when you get the Burgundian Inheritance, you'll get those provinces anyway.

That's if they don't choose Oldenburg for the fifty-sixth time in a row