Best Russian Idea Groups?

[Ravon[17]]

I love playing as Russia(Muscovy) However I alway end up lacking something by 1700s (even though all of the east is firmly drinking vodka!)

So I wanted some opinions about what the best ideas and order should be to WC with Russia.

My Ideas:
Humanist (I just like to not have to worry bout religion)
Expansion
Defense
Quality
Offensive
Economic
Trade
This one usually depends on if France is being an A-hole or what.

[Solis]

Are these in order?

[Reverend Belial]

I usually take Quantity and Religious and never get any farther than that, but yours are probably a bit more optimal.

[Solis]

What about the expansion in the early game by starting with expansion?

[AxzenSaxen]

In what way are you lacking, money manpower combat efficiency unrest rebels etc?
because what idea you should pick is all dependent upon what you want to achieve.

[Solis]

If the idea groups are in that order, then there is a possibilityof being behind in technologies.

[koba134]

Administrative
Defensive
Exploration

[Solis]

Not bad, but will you catch up with tech quickly enough to get 2nd idea group in 1491?

[Ravon[17]]

I usually am above tech (military wise i do fall behind in Adm though) because Russia gets alot of ducats from production and I have higher lvl advisors. And I for what I am lacking is the combat strength to take on the Western Nations. France is usaully allied with where I want to expand that or the Common Wealth forms and my troops just get reckt by the stacks usually around 50k per stack.

[SaltySpritze]

In my mind, but i've never played muscavy, I'd go expansion <-> religious (either these two first depending on what one wants), admin, quantitative, influence or diplomatic first, but both, offensive and lastly whatevs.


Focus should be on ideas that ease the costs of annexation, diplo-annex, reduce AE and gives you more relation slots for vassal feeding. Every other problem can be solved through war.