Should I play this game or wait for EU5?

[Redassassin]

I'm on the fence with this game. The game looks like it could be fun but it has so much dlc and I'm not sure if it's worth the investment. I'm also hearing that they might be announcing eu5 soon. So I'm not sure if I should get this game or wait for the new one down the line.

[Rialm]

Wait for EU5. But honestly EU5 will be so different than this one because I doubt it will be mana heavy like this one. So it would be like playing a different game with some resemblance.

I will advice you to buy the base game + the subscription, or check videos before so you can take as much advantage of the subscription. And then hope for getting the full game as a bundle in humble bundle. No idea if they will do it once again but hey!

[Mordovorot]

If EU5 releases anytime soon, it'll take years before it gets enough content to be able to compete with EU4. Sad but true.

[Schoppeng]

What should EU5 do better than EU4?

Get it and take the subscription.

See you in 1000 hours.

[Marquoz]

Schoppeng の投稿を引用：

What should EU5 do better than EU4?

I see two obvious and significant improvements that could be made:

1) Dynamic trade. The current trade model is far too rigid and very unrealistic. Trade arrows can never change direction or destination. This creates a series of major problems that cannot be fixed in current game. The devs have said that dynamic trade will "never" come to EU4, probably because the engine can't cope with it, and I believe them.

2) True multicore support. The EU4 game engine cannot make good use of multiple cores. It has to run many calculations sequentially on a single processor, one of the big reasons that many players experience poor late-game performance.

Other things--better graphics, new or different game systems, whatever--would be nice, but those two are the standout essentials a new title would have to have.

[N311]

I would say vanilla Eu4 as it is bit of a mess and its unlikely to be fixed at any point. 100 years in the game state always ends up broken.

You get things like nation getting massive trade income for just controlling a few prov in an end node. all regions globally being able to have the same tech. And many more that will not be fixed without an overhaul

You best either waiting for eu5 or if you like something closer to realism then the mod meiou and taxes is really fun. 300 years into 500 year game and im still having fun.

[Bandit_6]

EU5 will come out like every paradox game ever made has: bare bones and buggy. Then we'll see the forums fill up with complaints and whining for months on in. You want to see how bad it will be then just roll EU4 back to 1.0 and look at how cursed it was.

[Kapika96]

Bandit_6 の投稿を引用：

EU5 will come out like every paradox game ever made has: bare bones and buggy. Then we'll see the forums fill up with complaints and whining for months on in. You want to see how bad it will be then just roll EU4 back to 1.0 and look at how cursed it was.

How long did it take for EU4 to get good? IIRC I bought it 4-5 years after release.

[Marquoz]

I loved it immediately and put in hundreds of hours before the first DLC. It did launch with some issues, however, issues that were quickly patched.

I've told this story before, but my favorite occurred in my very first campaign. I was Castile, and I headed for the Caribbean as fast as I could. But I didn't get there first. Nope, someone beat me there. But I didn't find a Portuguese colonial empire, or French, or English. Nope, Japan had set up a colonial nation there by 1470.

[Aelfric]

definately not play this. this game is even inferior to imperator rome despite all the updates here. and eu5 won't ever succeed because vic 3 failed super hard where the strat is literally puppet non stop, do naval invasion to occasionally flank and ignore economy. i played the latest dlc and this is not a game suitable for 2023, i literally should've moved on back in 2018.

[Bandit_6]

Kapika96 の投稿を引用：

Bandit_6 の投稿を引用：

EU5 will come out like every paradox game ever made has: bare bones and buggy. Then we'll see the forums fill up with complaints and whining for months on in. You want to see how bad it will be then just roll EU4 back to 1.0 and look at how cursed it was.

How long did it take for EU4 to get good? IIRC I bought it 4-5 years after release.

YEARS. The game didn't really hit it's stride until Art of War dropped in 2014

[D・U・P!]

get it and get the dlc through other means

[hannibal_pjv]

It all depends on how long you want to wait...
EU5... maybe 2030 or after that.
Also it takes a couple of years after that that we have 3 big DLC that we need to get EU5 really rocking. So it depends.
If you can wait 5 years and start with bare bone game engine and learn game little by little while we get DLC that add some new features. It can be a good option.
If you want to start playing now with all bells and whistles... EU4 may be better option.

[Zyme]

Depends if you want to play now or wait 10 years. This game is complete and fleshed out. EU5 will not be at release.

[Biscuit]

Get the vanilla game on sale. Don't worry about DLC's. See if you like the game first. As far as EU5? I don't think so. EU4 is such a money maker, PDX would be foolish to upset that gravy train especially after Vicky3. They would be smarter to fix Imperator Rome and essentially make I:R the new EU5. They are very similar anyway.

[Kaiser Acedia II.]

Rialm の投稿を引用：

I will advice you to buy the base game + the subscription, or check videos before so you can take as much advantage of the subscription. And then hope for getting the full game as a bundle in humble bundle. No idea if they will do it once again but hey!

That's the way to go. Base game + subscription and if you like it you can buy the DLCs you want in a sale.