Should I play this game or wait for EU5?

[Redassassin]

I'm on the fence with this game. The game looks like it could be fun but it has so much dlc and I'm not sure if it's worth the investment. I'm also hearing that they might be announcing eu5 soon. So I'm not sure if I should get this game or wait for the new one down the line.

[AC Denton]

Decide things for yourself. Only you know what you want.

Originally posted by Redassassin:

I'm also hearing that they might be announcing eu5 soon.

People keep saying this but EU4 keeps going strong and they keep making DLC for it sooooooo I personally don't see EU5 happening until EU4 stops making enough money.

[RCMidas]

Also, look to the end state of Crusader Kings 2 and the launch state of Crusader Kings 3 to judge how much/little Europa Universalis 5 will have by comparison to Europa Universalis 4.

[grognardgary]

I am of the opinion that the will never make EUV I think they are just going to keep rebuilding EUIV as they do with Stellaris.

[Valto]

EU5 will probably release years from now and be incomplete upon release knowing Paradox's long track record of doing this. There's certain overhaul mods that make this game fun, but without one you probably aren't going to have a meaningful experience tbh.

[Marquoz]

Originally posted by Valto:

There's certain overhaul mods that make this game fun, but without one you probably aren't going to have a meaningful experience tbh.

I could not disagree more with this. I have 5700 hours of "meaningful experience" with the unmodded game.

As for EU5, people have been predicting that "they might be announcing it soon" for 8 straight years. Worse, who can say if a new iteration will be better than this game? Many CK2 players feel that CK3 is a big step down, for example.

[Aurion]

Given how PDX is with sequel releases the past ~15 years it's very unlikely EU5 will be anything close to EU4 on release, and a coin toss on whether it'll ever be as good as the games preceding it.

On the other hand, they- probably- can't muck it up as badly as they mucked up HoI 3 and to a somewhat lesser extent HoI 4 - it takes active effort to make drastically inferior games for fifteen years.

...

Probably.

[Kapika96]

No guarantee EU5 will come anytime soon. Plus based on recent Paradox releases I'd expect it to be utter ♥♥♥♥ at launch.

EU4 is worth it though, it's easy to sing a tonne of hours into and it's great fun. The DLC shouldn't really be an issue, a lot of it can be skipped entirely, all of it is regularly on sale, and there's also a subscription to get all of it too (IMO the subscription is a waste of money since it works out as more expensive than buying each new DLC day 1, but for somebody brand new to the game with no DLC to start with it may be better value. Or for somebody who doesn't play as often as I do who subscribes and cancels every now and then).

The steep learning curve is probably more of an issue than the DLC. It takes awhile to figure out how the game works. Tutorials and stuff are mostly outdated too, so aren't ideal. If you have experience with similar types of games that will definitely help though!

[isshinkurosaki]

just take the subscription for 5 euros/5 dollars for a month, test the game at your leisure and see if its really for you, dont need to pay all the dlc , its like 150-ish euros

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

EU5, if it ever comes out, will have less than half the content at launch than what EU4 with no DLC's has currently, mechanics will be massively dumbed down to appeal more to the mainstream, most generic random events will just be cringey and outdated memes and pop culture references, and a large amount of effort will undoubtedly be made to conform to present-day political correctness over historical accuracy. All that for some better graphics and MAYBE an FPS increase (with significantly higher system demands to boot)? No thank you.

[dollars202]

I'd wait til they got an all in one pack for like 30-40$ once eu5 comes out. get that

[Kapika96]

Originally posted by Totally Innocent Chatbot:

EU5, if it ever comes out, will have less than half the content at launch than what EU4 with no DLC's has currently, mechanics will be massively dumbed down to appeal more to the mainstream, most generic random events will just be cringey and outdated memes and pop culture references, and a large amount of effort will undoubtedly be made to conform to present-day political correctness over historical accuracy. All that for some better graphics and MAYBE an FPS increase (with significantly higher system demands to boot)? No thank you.

The funny thing is... that would actually be better than what I'm expecting for EU5 :(

[Sharpie The Dragon]

I'd wait for EU5 personally. Should come out around 2033 when the game finishes off with the Eastern Siberian update

[Dante_Deepdarkness]

Originally posted by Kapika96:

Originally posted by Totally Innocent Chatbot:

EU5, if it ever comes out, will have less than half the content at launch than what EU4 with no DLC's has currently, mechanics will be massively dumbed down to appeal more to the mainstream, most generic random events will just be cringey and outdated memes and pop culture references, and a large amount of effort will undoubtedly be made to conform to present-day political correctness over historical accuracy. All that for some better graphics and MAYBE an FPS increase (with significantly higher system demands to boot)? No thank you.

The funny thing is... that would actually be better than what I'm expecting for EU5 :(

I'm going to see how give you points because it is what I think too.

[Redassassin]

I think I'll wait for eu5. As most of the interesting content for eu4 is locked behind dlc. I'll stick with ck3, vic3 and stellaris for now.

[Medicles]

Originally posted by Redassassin:

I think I'll wait for eu5. As most of the interesting content for eu4 is locked behind dlc. I'll stick with ck3, vic3 and stellaris for now.

Then you have to wait a long time, my man. EU4 isnt finished and they are still producing content. There is very little reason for them to work on EU5.

Look, every year there is a huge sell, that can give you the whole game for like 20 bucks. Look out for that sale, its usually mentioned here in the forum.