With year is the best to attack Teutonic Order (Playing Poland)

[PawelK198604]

I mean after entering alliance with Austrua and Baranderburgia in my case, does is better to postpon invasion to 1455 or 1500?

[RedSands]

Your best time to attack the Teutonic Order is immediately after getting the personal union over Lithuania. Get your claim (usually provided in a mission to take Chemno) and declare war. Take Chelmno and two other provinces, with Danzig being one of them. After that, another war should be enough to vassalize or annex TO. You will not need Austria or Brandenburg for this war, so unless TO has a big ally, which it usually doesn't get, don't even bother calling them.

[PawelK198604]

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Your best time to attack the Teutonic Order is immediately after getting the personal union over Lithuania. Get your claim (usually provided in a mission to take Chemno) and declare war. Take Chelmno and two other provinces, with Danzig being one of them. After that, another war should be enough to vassalize or annex TO. You will not need Austria or Brandenburg for this war, so unless TO has a big ally, which it usually doesn't get, don't even bother calling them.

Thanks:)
But every war need pecunia (money) :D How get money for Kingdom of Poland, i mean how to trade?

[Nordic Mole]

Początkowo opublikowane przez PawelK198604:

Początkowo opublikowane przez RedSands:

Your best time to attack the Teutonic Order is immediately after getting the personal union over Lithuania. Get your claim (usually provided in a mission to take Chemno) and declare war. Take Chelmno and two other provinces, with Danzig being one of them. After that, another war should be enough to vassalize or annex TO. You will not need Austria or Brandenburg for this war, so unless TO has a big ally, which it usually doesn't get, don't even bother calling them.

Thanks:)
But every war need pecunia (money) :D How get money for Kingdom of Poland, i mean how to trade?

Since Lithuania will do most of the fighting the war wont cost you much money unless u do something really stupid. Taking a few loans wont kill you either.

[PawelK198604]

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Początkowo opublikowane przez PawelK198604:

Thanks:)
But every war need pecunia (money) :D How get money for Kingdom of Poland, i mean how to trade?

Since Lithuania will do most of the fighting the war wont cost you much money unless u do something really stupid. Taking a few loans wont kill you either.

Thanks you information was really helpful:-)
I taken almost whole TO , with help of Branderburgia, Pomerania, Lithubania. Austria don't honored thier alliance. I need their help because TO was aliied with Hungary.

But now i get Chełmno ( i wonder why i cannot taken Danzig or wamria?) But i forced TO to give Danziig independence:-)

The best part i still had 11 thousand of souldiers, and postive ballance:D but i wonder how i can rebulit my manpower???

I have task that i can selcect to rebulid my Man Power, but how to make this?

[Nordic Mole]

U can rebuild manpower by staying at peace and not fighting. Some events can give you extra manpower.

[PawelK198604]

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U can rebuild manpower by staying at peace and not fighting. Some events can give you extra manpower.

How long it can take i have 500 manpower :-)
And how increse trade for Poland to make some cash

[Nordic Mole]

Best way to get more trade income as poland is to take over the Teutonic order's lands and collect from trade in the Baltic Sea trade node. It should take 3-6 years untill you get a decent ammount of manpower.

[PawelK198604]

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Best way to get more trade income as poland is to take over the Teutonic order's lands and collect from trade in the Baltic Sea trade node. It should take 3-6 years untill you get a decent ammount of manpower.

I must start again again.
I have preaty nasty war with Bohemia, when i signed treaty with Tetonic Order, i forced them to free Deznig (Gadańsk as is caled in Poland) than i give tham that if thay was atacked i help them, unfortunley my ally Pomerania atacked them, and i declared war on them. because if i wasn't i will lost my prestige. Thay was allied with Bohemia they war was not goes well, and i borrow lot of cash, i want use this to capture Breaslua (wroclaw where i live xD ) Raciborz, and Niderslizen, whole Pomerania. Unfortunley Denzig signed fricking WHITE PEACE!!!! i lost all provinces i taken but with 24 loans!

[Nordic Mole]

Maybe u should restart

[PawelK198604]

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Maybe u should restart

I restarted and Now i did what you advised me i coqered Chełmo won 50% TO Trade now i reduced army budget and paying back my loans:-)
Thanks:-)

I wonder does i should disolve alliance with Austria, i need them only to stop Hungary when i robbing Teutonic Knight :-) I doesen't want to be drag into war with Turkey for exepmle :-)

[Nordic Mole]

Ur welcome. Good luck.

Niech żyje Polska!

Bóg Honor Ojczyzna!

Za Polskę!
Za wolność!

[PawelK198604]

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Ur welcome. Good luck.

Niech żyje Polska!

Bóg Honor Ojczyzna!

Za Polskę!
Za wolność!

You known Polish so "Za Naszą i Waszą Wolność"

I wonder to known what do you think, does i should "Disove allince" with them they entered the war with Hungary, with was allied to TO, very very late and only when i asked them.

In real life Austria often screw up Poland, and in 18 century they even was tok part in partition of Poland, despite fact that Polish King Jan III Sobieski defended them aganist Turky!

[Nordic Mole]

Austria is a usefull ally early on. In the late game France can be a very good ally vs the whole HRE.

[kesat]

Początkowo opublikowane przez PawelK198604:

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U can rebuild manpower by staying at peace and not fighting. Some events can give you extra manpower.

How long it can take i have 500 manpower :-)
And how increse trade for Poland to make some cash

Each of your provinces gives you additional manpower (based on a predefined amount per provinces + modifications like buildings). Each province adds to your total monthly regain value.The maximum amount of manpower you may store is 10x yearly regain value. If your manpower is depleted you always need 10 years to regain all of it (without any events).

I wonder does i should disolve alliance with Austria, i need them only to stop Hungary when i robbing Teutonic Knight :-) I doesen't want to be drag into war with Turkey for exepmle :-)

Your alliances should always depend on your neighbouring enemies, your plans and your "friends" thoughts. As an example: Poland is a perfect ally for Brandenburg against the TO (because Brandenburg mostly aims to get Prussia, share common goals). But afterwards they are eternal enemies until one is crushed.

If you want to expand in the HRE (bohemia, pommerania, brandenburg) austria will be your enemy (because they are emperor) and you should ally with austrias enemies (france, burgundy, hungary). If you don't want to interfere within the HRE austria may be an good ally against hungary, later on ottomans, scandinavia, even russia.

Always take a look at the enemies of your foe, they may be your allies for the next campaigns.

[PawelK198604]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Frozen Blight:

Austria is a usefull ally early on. In the late game France can be a very good ally vs the whole HRE.

Thanks:-)
But does i should dissolve alliance, i does not need another war (does dissolving alliance will badly influnce my repuration), i want rebulid my stregh i read that investing in trade technology is good, that i can bulid market place and have more cash:-)