Neat trick to change your nation's religion and culture

[IndirectHero]

You've ever wanted to change your religion and culture of your nation? For example, the Ottomans Empire becoming a christian nation and can finally be the HRE Emperor? Well here is a neat trick that I learned on Eu3 that still works on Eu4!

All you have to do is:

1) Move your capital to the providence of the culture and religion you want to change to.

2) Sell all your providence to your vassals which leaves you only with your capital providence.

3) Take all the loans you can get.

4) Spend all your money on expensive advisors and ships/troops.

5) Wait till you go bankrupt.

6) Now enjoy your new culture and religion

From there, all you have to do is recover from bankruptcy and diplo-annex your vassals to recover your lands.



Here are some screenshots to see the before and after conversion. (Both from Ironmode)

The Knights
http://imgur.com/a/kFhFD

Ottomans
http://imgur.com/a/mtkEJ



Goodluck with this neat trick! I hope this helps!

[Kagemin]

At least for now (no idea how it'll work after the Art of War rebel changes) letting rebels enforce demands is a much easier and faster way to change religion imo.

[IndirectHero]

Originally posted by Kageryuu:

At least for now (no idea how it'll work after the Art of War rebel changes) letting rebels enforce demands is a much easier and faster way to change religion imo.

I hadn't test out the religion rebels on Eu4, but on Eu3, if a heathen rebel took over the capital. All it did was just change that providence to that religion but not the nation. I'm sure the heretic rebels would work though.

[Kagemin]

Heathen rebels will need to flip at least half your provinces (and your capital I think) to convert you. Heretics you can just accept demands with after they sieged the first province (you usually want to have them flip more provinces though, so that you have to convert less yourself).

As far as I know the only nation that doesn't work with is the Papal State.

[IndirectHero]

Originally posted by Kageryuu:

Heathen rebels will need to flip at least half your provinces (and your capital I think) to convert you. Heretics you can just accept demands with after they sieged the first province (you usually want to have them flip more provinces though, so that you have to convert less yourself).

As far as I know the only nation that doesn't work with is the Papal State.

Interesting, I have to do some testing to see how that goes. Though on my Lithuania gameplay, my bottom area were being bombarded by Sunni rebels, after awhile they defected to Crimea :(

[Narf]

Originally posted by Kageryuu:

Heathen rebels will need to flip at least half your provinces (and your capital I think) to convert you. Heretics you can just accept demands with after they sieged the first province (you usually want to have them flip more provinces though, so that you have to convert less yourself).

As far as I know the only nation that doesn't work with is the Papal State.

That did not work in my Iroqi playthrough, though. 56% of my provinces were catholic, including the capital, but giving in to rebel demands would still just lose me 50 prestige, and that's it. No religion switch.

Concerning the OP, that is a bad idea. Vassals can and will declare war for independence on you should you ever become weak enough that they see a window of opportunity. So weakening yourself like that can very well lose you the game. Of course it also leaves you vulnerable to opportunistic neighbors.

[Kagemin]

Originally posted by Narf:

Originally posted by Kageryuu:

Heathen rebels will need to flip at least half your provinces (and your capital I think) to convert you. Heretics you can just accept demands with after they sieged the first province (you usually want to have them flip more provinces though, so that you have to convert less yourself).

As far as I know the only nation that doesn't work with is the Papal State.

That did not work in my Iroqi playthrough, though. 56% of my provinces were catholic, including the capital, but giving in to rebel demands would still just lose me 50 prestige, and that's it. No religion switch.

Did you negotiate (accept demands) or did the rebels enforce demands? From my understanding it only works for heathens if they enforce demands.

[Narf]

Originally posted by Kageryuu:

Originally posted by Narf:

That did not work in my Iroqi playthrough, though. 56% of my provinces were catholic, including the capital, but giving in to rebel demands would still just lose me 50 prestige, and that's it. No religion switch.

Did you negotiate (accept demands) or did the rebels enforce demands? From my understanding it only works for heathens if they enforce demands.

The problem was that when I let them have a province for too long, they would cause that province to defect to the Spanish CN in Canada (which is bloody stupid), so I could never allow them to do that.

[Kagemin]

Yeah, occupied provinces defect to the nearest nation of the rebels' religion after 18 months. Guess that makes it pretty tough for bigger nations to convert that way...

[IndirectHero]

Originally posted by Kageryuu:

Heathen rebels will need to flip at least half your provinces (and your capital I think) to convert you. Heretics you can just accept demands with after they sieged the first province (you usually want to have them flip more provinces though, so that you have to convert less yourself).

As far as I know the only nation that doesn't work with is the Papal State.

Okay I just did the testing. Religion rebels also works :)

Weird thing is, I had -3 stability hit, after the orthodox rebel force me to convert, I got +3 stability.

Here are the screenshots of Ottomans being force to convert by the Orthodox rebels.

http://imgur.com/a/Vc0ya

[Funsize]

The Ottomans have a decision (in the Missions tab) to change culture to Greek, so the bankruptcy exploit is overkill. The only time that I thought the bankruptcy exploit was useful was in DDRJake's Minghal run, but that has been patched.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JwgJH8Gk7I&list=PLm0MDLKuRDrkwFrBANeiw8w3uaEAP0Bhw

If you really like exploits, DDRJake is the player to watch, because of how familiar he is with game mechanics in EU3 and EU4.

[Kagemin]

You only get the decision to change culture if your capital an the majority of your provinces are different from your current primary culture.