Teutonic [later Prussian] Ideas

[Xingzhi]

I just solidified my spot in the HRE, so im safer from Poland than I normally would be, and am about to ally Muscovy, securing that safe spot to form prussia later. I am now planning later game and looking at Idea groups I might take. This is my first Ironman as Prussia, and a little friendly advice never hurts. So I was thinking one of two options for my first three, I will list them in order.

Innovative, Offensive, Tade.

Or

Economic, Aristocratic, Influence.

If anyone thinks these groupings are good Or if they would be better in another particular order, ect making offensive first, trade second and inno last. Please let me know :D!

[Xingzhi]

bump

[Surimi]

I would suggest taking influence and humanist as your first two idea groups (in that order). Teutonic ideas really aren't bad militarily anyway, and you'll have loads of money from controlling rich provinces like Danzig. Combined, however, influence and humanist will mean greatly reduces problems with aggressive expansion, allowing you to just plain do more in the HRE.

[SailaNamai]

Aristocratic is weak. Dont go there. As in my opinion is Innovative. Probably Influence or Humanism first. Quantity or economic second. See how it develops from there. Trade is good. As is administrative. Offensive got hit really hard with the newest addon. Forced march is now admin tech 9. So i dont go there anymore as well. Quality is okayish as well for prussia but i like countering the lack of manpower more, then having even stronger troops.