Europa Universalis IV

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Athena Apr 19, 2023 @ 9:21am
Spain is RNG if you have a game
Hey Paradox next time you make a cool new disaster to really ♥♥♥♥ a nation over how about you do not make a faction even that makes you lose 1 stab or 75 admin that can just continue to spam?

I know crazy right, but with your current way of having that first disaster its a dice roll if you get to play that nation or if your RNG event will just nation ruin you fully.
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eloy v7 Apr 19, 2023 @ 9:23am 
It happened to me, it keeps spaming -1 stab o -75 adm and dip, you have to get rid of the disaster fast or restart
Athena Apr 19, 2023 @ 9:37am 
If you make on mistake in what you give your estates or are unluckly with how fast the events spawn it does not matter how fast you kill rebels the game will game ruin you
Athena Apr 19, 2023 @ 10:15am 
Originally posted by micah6vs8:
If you do not get out in front of it (hammer admin points early / +3 advisor at least) and prepare to kill rebels asap you will get caught in the undertow. If you stay on top of it it is not a big deal, i.e. it can be over in a few months.
I am not saying it is impossible you can certainly take a level 3 advisor pref one that makes stab cost less 100%, but if you do not follow that very specific way of playing its gameover for you.

A majority of other disasters are not gaming ruining but very though if you are not prepared.
Some of them like the religions unity one or even Englands war of the roses are RNG depended and game mess your nation, but with the spam events where none are good in Castile it feels way more devistating.

You cannot prepare in the same way unless you follow a very specific path/strategy.

That is my major gripe with it unless you have been playing castile to know the strat you can super easy have your game ♥♥♥♥♥♥ -100 prestige 3k in debt and -500 dip and admin and no end in sight becuase you keep getting spammed every month with one of these events.

Unlike almost every other disaster this disaster feels just a unjust punishment you cannot work around unless you get a level 3 advisor right away and stop focus on mil to admin.
THAC0 Apr 19, 2023 @ 12:05pm 
sounds like even if you can play the new update its just trash.
volbound1700 Apr 19, 2023 @ 12:30pm 
Yeah, if anything, they should have buffed Castile's ability to get Admin and Diplo since they are at war with insane Colonial expansionist Portugal for New World colonization.

This was really crappy update because Castile is a starter country and now you got a brutal conflict immediately with them that wrecks there game. They did a similar thing with Italy on HOI4 although the mission tree doesn't wreck there game, it makes them very hard to play for newer players.
Last edited by volbound1700; Apr 19, 2023 @ 12:43pm
Nitrate Dioxide Apr 19, 2023 @ 3:22pm 
Originally posted by Athena:
Hey Paradox next time you make a cool new disaster to really ♥♥♥♥ a nation over how about you do not make a faction even that makes you lose 1 stab or 75 admin that can just continue to spam?

I know crazy right, but with your current way of having that first disaster its a dice roll if you get to play that nation or if your RNG event will just nation ruin you fully.

Skill issue, truly.
What are you using ADM on this early in the game?
The event should fire before any of your expansion paths are open, either by missions or fabrications. Unless of course you try to force an early war with Granada, which in of itself can be nation ruining if they have the right alliances. Tlemcen is a possible and easier route as well, but oftentimes Tunis or Morocco get there before I even have the chance to fabricate.

As a result you should have plenty of men to throw at battles and sieges, as well as ADM to force stability back up. If you know what's going to happen you can also spend some of your extra ducats on a -10% stability cost advisor, or the various other methods of reducing it. If you're still really truly struggling with manpower, you're still Castile, buy mercenaries.

If you don't have the money, force dev La Mancha's production and you're practically just printing ducats. (Inflation included.) I honestly feel that this disaster is significantly more trivial than any most others. (Dutch revolt I'm looking at you.) While losing the ADM is by all means not helpful, in the long term it isn't that terrible.
Point Apr 19, 2023 @ 3:55pm 
I just let the event stab me down to -3 whilst banking up 300 admin to stab up to 0 and playing whack-a-mole with the rebs. That event is annoying but by hitting the stab floor it's null and void. But yeah it popped waaaaay too often
volbound1700 Apr 19, 2023 @ 4:21pm 
Originally posted by Nitrate Dioxide:
Originally posted by Athena:
Hey Paradox next time you make a cool new disaster to really ♥♥♥♥ a nation over how about you do not make a faction even that makes you lose 1 stab or 75 admin that can just continue to spam?

I know crazy right, but with your current way of having that first disaster its a dice roll if you get to play that nation or if your RNG event will just nation ruin you fully.

Skill issue, truly.
What are you using ADM on this early in the game?
The event should fire before any of your expansion paths are open, either by missions or fabrications. Unless of course you try to force an early war with Granada, which in of itself can be nation ruining if they have the right alliances. Tlemcen is a possible and easier route as well, but oftentimes Tunis or Morocco get there before I even have the chance to fabricate.

As a result you should have plenty of men to throw at battles and sieges, as well as ADM to force stability back up. If you know what's going to happen you can also spend some of your extra ducats on a -10% stability cost advisor, or the various other methods of reducing it. If you're still really truly struggling with manpower, you're still Castile, buy mercenaries.

If you don't have the money, force dev La Mancha's production and you're practically just printing ducats. (Inflation included.) I honestly feel that this disaster is significantly more trivial than any most others. (Dutch revolt I'm looking at you.) While losing the ADM is by all means not helpful, in the long term it isn't that terrible.

It is a mess, Castile already has it rough with crappy King and heir in early game.

Sure you get plenty of ducats but it is hard to get to Caribbean and beat out Portugal even before this update and now it is just ruinous. This event is trash and has made Castile unplayable.

Playing France now and enjoying them although they don't play that much different to me than before.
Marcos_DS Apr 19, 2023 @ 5:04pm 
They just forgot to reset the timer after the event fired so it can fire in extremely rapid succession. Hope it gets fixed.
Damedius Apr 19, 2023 @ 5:18pm 
Bro. It's a Paradox game that just released new content. This is how they roll. You are paid beta testers.

Meanwhile they still haven't fixed the AI deleting it's troops and they delete forums posts about it on the official forums.

They don't care, they just want your money.
A bit cheesy, but you can slow events like this from firing on repeat (works on other things like >100% Overextension events too) by simply not clicking on anything in the event window. It will remain pending on your screen for up to four months before automatically picking the first option in the list, and as long as an event is still pending you can't get a second copy of the exact same event.
Bllasae Apr 20, 2023 @ 1:47am 
I don't know if it's with the new DLC or not, but there's an event with the Ottomans during EVERY change of the leader where the options are either -30 legitimacy (and I'm pretty sure this happens multiple times) or -2 stability and the chance to create rebels if your military skill is low.
Olter Apr 20, 2023 @ 2:16am 
First of all, this happens very early so if you mess it up just retry. Literally first year this event triggers. 2nd, all you have to do is speed run the affected provinces before more events pop up. Also you dont have to pick the -1 stability option OBVIOSLY YOU PICK THE -PRESTIGE AND AUTONOMY option instead.

If you want BS disaster, try the dacke disaster. 60K rebel stacks in 1550. Several of them AS SWEDEN. Enjoy.
Last edited by Olter; Apr 20, 2023 @ 2:16am
Olter Apr 20, 2023 @ 2:17am 
Originally posted by Totally Innocent Chatbot:
A bit cheesy, but you can slow events like this from firing on repeat (works on other things like >100% Overextension events too) by simply not clicking on anything in the event window. It will remain pending on your screen for up to four months before automatically picking the first option in the list, and as long as an event is still pending you can't get a second copy of the exact same event.
Tell that to the 100+ overextension event
Originally posted by Olter:
Originally posted by Totally Innocent Chatbot:
A bit cheesy, but you can slow events like this from firing on repeat (works on other things like >100% Overextension events too) by simply not clicking on anything in the event window. It will remain pending on your screen for up to four months before automatically picking the first option in the list, and as long as an event is still pending you can't get a second copy of the exact same event.
Tell that to the 100+ overextension event
It works for only that specific event you're holding, and >100% Overextention has several separate negative events. So, if you hold the "Separatists Sentiment" event, you won't get any more of those until the first one goes away, but you'll still get others like the -1 Stability, random advisor leaves, etc. unless you hold all of them too.
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