Recent review conspiracy?

[Birds Aren't Real]

I just looked at the store page, it says recent reviews are very low (35% positive). Yet I went to look at recent reviews and they are almost all positive reviews. What is going on here? We have a conspiracy on our hands I think.

[grotaclas]

Try to deactivate the language filter for the recent reviews. Most of the recent negative reviews are in chinese and have nothing to do with eu4. AFAIK they were done because hoi4 added an alt-history mission for India which allows them to gain cores on Tibet

[Jaiyro]

Originally posted by grotaclas:

Try to deactivate the language filter for the recent reviews. Most of the recent negative reviews are in chinese and have nothing to do with eu4. AFAIK they were done because hoi4 added an alt-history mission for India which allows them to gain cores on Tibet

The chinese have surprised me once again how petty they can be. I can't imagine getting mad about something like that to take the time and energy to review bomb ANOTHER game made by the same producer.

[aloup.saipuol]

Originally posted by Jaiyro:

Originally posted by grotaclas:

Try to deactivate the language filter for the recent reviews. Most of the recent negative reviews are in chinese and have nothing to do with eu4. AFAIK they were done because hoi4 added an alt-history mission for India which allows them to gain cores on Tibet

The chinese have surprised me once again how petty they can be. I can't imagine getting mad about something like that to take the time and energy to review bomb ANOTHER game made by the same producer.

Especially since from what I have heard, there are many much more pressing problems with the recent hoi4 dlc.

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Originally posted by Jaiyro:

Originally posted by grotaclas:

Try to deactivate the language filter for the recent reviews. Most of the recent negative reviews are in chinese and have nothing to do with eu4. AFAIK they were done because hoi4 added an alt-history mission for India which allows them to gain cores on Tibet

The chinese have surprised me once again how petty they can be. I can't imagine getting mad about something like that to take the time and energy to review bomb ANOTHER game made by the same producer.

They reviewbombed EVERY Paradox game over it.

[MattP]

Originally posted by aloup.saipuol:

Originally posted by Jaiyro:

The chinese have surprised me once again how petty they can be. I can't imagine getting mad about something like that to take the time and energy to review bomb ANOTHER game made by the same producer.

Especially since from what I have heard, there are many much more pressing problems with the recent hoi4 dlc.

There are many more pressing problems in china they should worry about. Like communism and censorship of their entire media consumption. They can go pound rice.

[Marquoz]

Originally posted by Totally Innocent Chatbot:

Originally posted by Jaiyro:

The chinese have surprised me once again how petty they can be. I can't imagine getting mad about something like that to take the time and energy to review bomb ANOTHER game made by the same producer.

They reviewbombed EVERY Paradox game over it.

Sadly, blanket review bombing for political and cultural reasons (not to mention pure spite) has become the norm over the last decade. I pay no attention to customer or audience ratings for this exact reason. Read reviews from critics you respect; ignore everyone else.

[cayenne_spicy]

Bob has never eaten Indian food before. Bob generally dislikes spicy food. Bob goes to eat at an Indian restaurant, Delhi Dinners (a name I've made up just now; if there's really a restaurant by that name somewhere, I'm unaware of it). Bob leaves a one star review because he disliked his dinner. Bob having disliked his meal isn't invalid, he's allowed to dislike it. But Bob was predisposed to dislike it because he doesn't like spicy food, and, because he's never had Indian food before, he has no way to ascertain if on the merits of being Indian food - regardless of whether he liked his dish or not - it is good Indian food or bad Indian food.

Meanwhile, Jim, who spent a decade living in India, married a woman from India, and is a veteran diner when it comes to Indian cuisine, rates Delhi Dinners at five stars.

Their reviews are given the same weight and give Delhi Dinners a net review score of 3/5. This is why consumer reviews are completely worthless for any and all products (Yelp, etc) because there are no qualifying metrics by which reviews are derived. Everyone's allowed to be critical regardless of whether or not they even understand what it is they're critiquing, had any possibility of liking it in the first place, or even have sufficient comparative exposure to give any basis to their opinion.

[Malvastor]

Originally posted by cayenne_spicy:

Bob has never eaten Indian food before. Bob generally dislikes spicy food. Bob goes to eat at an Indian restaurant, Delhi Dinners (a name I've made up just now; if there's really a restaurant by that name somewhere, I'm unaware of it). Bob leaves a one star review because he disliked his dinner. Bob having disliked his meal isn't invalid, he's allowed to dislike it. But Bob was predisposed to dislike it because he doesn't like spicy food, and, because he's never had Indian food before, he has no way to ascertain if on the merits of being Indian food - regardless of whether he liked his dish or not - it is good Indian food or bad Indian food.

Meanwhile, Jim, who spent a decade living in India, married a woman from India, and is a veteran diner when it comes to Indian cuisine, rates Delhi Dinners at five stars.

Their reviews are given the same weight and give Delhi Diner a net review score of 3/5. This is why consumer reviews are completely worthless for any and all products (Yelp, etc) because there are no qualifying metrics by which reviews are derived. Everyone's allowed to be critical regardless of whether or not they even understand what it is they're critiquing, had any possibility of liking it in the first place, or even have sufficient comparative exposure to give any basis to their opinion.

Worse, in this case Bob doesn't even eat at Delhi Dinners. He ate at a totally separate restaurant owned by the same guy, Farouk's Falafel Fest.

And he's not mad about the falafel (Farouk makes excellent falafel), he's pissed because a poster on the wall in the restaurant says falafel was invented in Tunisia and it outrages Bob that anyone could believe it was invented anywhere other than Turkey.

[cayenne_spicy]

Originally posted by Malvastor:

Worse, in this case Bob doesn't even eat at Delhi Dinners. He ate at a totally separate restaurant owned by the same guy, Farouk's Falafel Fest.

And he's not mad about the falafel (Farouk makes excellent falafel), he's pissed because a poster on the wall in the restaurant says falafel was invented in Tunisia and it outrages Bob that anyone could believe it was invented anywhere other than Turkey.

Yep. Precisely. It's really so awful and stupid.

I own a bakery and I had a customer order Bavarian pretzels (traditional style, so done using lye) as one of the dessert items for their wedding, with some dipping options like caramel, etc. They paid for delivery. I had excess so I brought one with me to snack on during the drive - delicious. I got a bad review from them a few days later because they were unhappy that the pretzels were very tough and the exterior had gotten dry. I chatted with their wedding coordinator, who confirmed that the guests did love them... when they ate them early on... but that it wasn't our fault. You see, the happy couple apparently had a pegboard wall and had the coordinator (against her advice) put the pretzels on the pegboard wall... throughout the entirety of the ceremony, the reception, dinner, dance, etc. So the guests who snuck one early on gave great feedback. But go figure if you leave a bread product unwrapped, open-air, in summery warmth, that it dries out. They've had bread before. They surely aren't so stupid as to know what happens in those conditions. But it's my fault, you know, so here, have this bad review.

I tried contesting the review on that basis, but the review company has left it in place. Didn't affect my average (we get mostly 5-stars), but, annoying to just have to live with the baseless review existing.

[Malvastor]

Originally posted by cayenne_spicy:

Originally posted by Malvastor:

Worse, in this case Bob doesn't even eat at Delhi Dinners. He ate at a totally separate restaurant owned by the same guy, Farouk's Falafel Fest.

And he's not mad about the falafel (Farouk makes excellent falafel), he's pissed because a poster on the wall in the restaurant says falafel was invented in Tunisia and it outrages Bob that anyone could believe it was invented anywhere other than Turkey.

Yep. Precisely. It's really so awful and stupid.

I own a bakery and I had a customer order Bavarian pretzels (traditional style, so done using lye) as one of the dessert items for their wedding, with some dipping options like caramel, etc. They paid for delivery. I had excess so I brought one with me to snack on during the drive - delicious. I got a bad review from them a few days later because they were unhappy that the pretzels were very tough and the exterior had gotten dry. I chatted with their wedding coordinator, who confirmed that the guests did love them... when they ate them early on... but that it wasn't our fault. You see, the happy couple apparently had a pegboard wall and had the coordinator (against her advice) put the pretzels on the pegboard wall... throughout the entirety of the ceremony, the reception, dinner, dance, etc. So the guests who snuck one early on gave great feedback. But go figure if you leave a bread product unwrapped, open-air, in summery warmth, that it dries out. They've had bread before. They surely aren't so stupid as to know what happens in those conditions. But it's my fault, you know, so here, have this bad review.

I tried contesting the review on that basis, but the review company has left it in place. Didn't affect my average (we get mostly 5-stars), but, annoying to just have to live with the baseless review existing.

Ouch. Good thing it all happened quickly, or they'd have waited six weeks and sued you for the bread going moldy.

[Marquoz]

Originally posted by cayenne_spicy:

Bob has never eaten Indian food before. Bob generally dislikes spicy food. Bob goes to eat at an Indian restaurant, Delhi Dinners (a name I've made up just now; if there's really a restaurant by that name somewhere, I'm unaware of it). Bob leaves a one star review because he disliked his dinner. Bob having disliked his meal isn't invalid, he's allowed to dislike it. But Bob was predisposed to dislike it because he doesn't like spicy food, and, because he's never had Indian food before, he has no way to ascertain if on the merits of being Indian food - regardless of whether he liked his dish or not - it is good Indian food or bad Indian food.

Meanwhile, Jim, who spent a decade living in India, married a woman from India, and is a veteran diner when it comes to Indian cuisine, rates Delhi Dinners at five stars.

Their reviews are given the same weight and give Delhi Dinners a net review score of 3/5. This is why consumer reviews are completely worthless for any and all products (Yelp, etc) because there are no qualifying metrics by which reviews are derived. Everyone's allowed to be critical regardless of whether or not they even understand what it is they're critiquing, had any possibility of liking it in the first place, or even have sufficient comparative exposure to give any basis to their opinion.

Trust posters named cayenne_spicy to provide seasoning-based analogies!

[Montechgamer]

Originally posted by aloup.saipuol:

Originally posted by Jaiyro:

The chinese have surprised me once again how petty they can be. I can't imagine getting mad about something like that to take the time and energy to review bomb ANOTHER game made by the same producer.

Especially since from what I have heard, there are many much more pressing problems with the recent hoi4 dlc.

i have and play vic3 and hoi4 and let me tell you the new dlcs is terrible for both and they are both for india

[Rooter]

This discussion is making feel slightly nauseous.

[Birds Aren't Real]

Originally posted by Rooter:

This discussion is making feel slightly nauseous.

😟

[grognardgary]

Originally posted by aloup.saipuol:

Originally posted by Jaiyro:

The chinese have surprised me once again how petty they can be. I can't imagine getting mad about something like that to take the time and energy to review bomb ANOTHER game made by the same producer.

Especially since from what I have heard, there are many much more pressing problems with the recent hoi4 dlc.

Some one of a collection of someone's appears to have royally screwed the pooch. Hence the big mea culpa this morning. The problem with China is of course the government which apparently is currently run by a bunch paranoid hypersensitive control freaks hell bent on micro managing the entire world.