Europa Universalis IV

Europa Universalis IV

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Distra Aug 13, 2015 @ 12:03am
Allies almost never calling for help in war.
Is it just me or does allies almost never call for help in wars anymore? Don't get me wrong. it's nice not having to take a prestige hit. When they call you in against the rest of the world, but i've had allies lose a lot in wars lately that i could have easly helped them win.
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Jaded Aug 13, 2015 @ 2:54am 
having the opposite problem with opm's calling me into large wars.
uɐɐılʎʇs Aug 13, 2015 @ 4:57am 
Have you got a ton of loans etc?
Some of the same reasons an AI will refuse a call to arms can affect if they call you depending on what version you are on.

Though there are about 50 reasons why an AI wont accept plus its attitude toward you(defensive/threatened) aswell as opinion of the target country. As far as i know there are only a few things that will stop them calling you. High debt, sometimes already being in a war etc.

I also sometimes dont get a defensive call to arms off the AI if it starts a war first(and doesnt call me) but then gets attacked by a new alliance midway through its offensive war.

But sometimes its just the AI being the AI on not being smart in a way that benefit you instead of skrewing with you.
Sir Slasher Aug 13, 2015 @ 5:05am 
if u got same rivals they very likely to call u vs them
the_panther Aug 13, 2015 @ 6:21am 
They will never call you in if they are not war leader (with the exception of the Emperor defending the Empire). Check and see if they are fighting a war by supporting one of their other allies.

Also, they will call you in only if the AI would mathematically accept in your place. Things like your war exhaustion, distant war, low manpower, liking the enemy, etc. all make the AI think you will not accept so they don't ask. Distant war is usually the biggest reason for them not asking.

Sometimes, they will call you in later if your war exhaustion decreases enough. If you think it is close and your war exhaustion is high, you can try reducing exhaustion if you really want to join the war.

Another tactic is declaring war yourself on the enemy if you also have a CB. I like to do this since I would much rather be war leader to get what I want. If you have messages set where a popup-and-pause box appears when an ally declares war, you can occasionally declare a separate war yourself before they call you in.
Kelldath Aug 13, 2015 @ 6:44am 
Originally posted by the_panther:
Also, they will call you in only if the AI would mathematically accept in your place. Things like your war exhaustion, distant war, low manpower, liking the enemy, etc. all make the AI think you will not accept so they don't ask. Distant war is usually the biggest reason for them not asking.

This is most likely the problem here.
AI doesn't know what kind of person you are, so by default it acts as if you too were an AI.
If you're too far and have good relation with his ennemy AI won't even bother asking you, since it would refuse if roles were reversed.

You can either help by attacking the baddie on your own, or use the enforce peace (if your friend is defender) to forcefully join the war.
76561198039309116 Sep 10, 2015 @ 10:24pm 
Yea its very annoying especially in regency since normally you have to deal with rebels. However if you want to game the system you say screw you ally i declear first, that way you can chose how the war goes.
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Date Posted: Aug 13, 2015 @ 12:03am
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