Europa Universalis IV

Europa Universalis IV

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RedSands Dec 14, 2015 @ 11:07pm
Riga into Prussia, but not into Monarchy
Playing as Riga for their achievement and reformed as Prussia. Despite this, the government type has not shifted to that of a monarchy. Was wondering if this has happened with anyone else. Cheers.
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Black_Rat Dec 14, 2015 @ 11:13pm 
Only T.O. reformes ino a monarchy when forming prussia, They have a special decision of the same name.
Tiny Tyrant Dec 14, 2015 @ 11:19pm 
Wait, I can be Prussia without having to deal with regencies, PUs, and all that other nasty monarchy crap?

Im assuming it switches your ideas to Prussian when you form the nation?
Black_Rat Dec 14, 2015 @ 11:22pm 
yes your ideas should switch to prussian.
RedSands Dec 15, 2015 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by Margrave:
Wait, I can be Prussia without having to deal with regencies, PUs, and all that other nasty monarchy crap?

Im assuming it switches your ideas to Prussian when you form the nation?

I mean, I'm not complaining, just wondering if anyone else has had this happen. And yes, you get the event to switch to Prussian Ideas as well. Theocratic Prussia may seemingly be best Prussia.
Narf Dec 15, 2015 @ 5:46am 
Originally posted by RedSands:
Originally posted by Margrave:
Wait, I can be Prussia without having to deal with regencies, PUs, and all that other nasty monarchy crap?

Im assuming it switches your ideas to Prussian when you form the nation?

I mean, I'm not complaining, just wondering if anyone else has had this happen. And yes, you get the event to switch to Prussian Ideas as well. Theocratic Prussia may seemingly be best Prussia.
I daresay that Prussia with a Dutch republic government type would be best Prussia if that was possible. Sadly, it's not.
RedSands Dec 15, 2015 @ 5:55am 
Originally posted by Narf:
Originally posted by RedSands:

I mean, I'm not complaining, just wondering if anyone else has had this happen. And yes, you get the event to switch to Prussian Ideas as well. Theocratic Prussia may seemingly be best Prussia.
I daresay that Prussia with a Dutch republic government type would be best Prussia if that was possible. Sadly, it's not.

Now we're just talking crazy talk with that idea.

The only disappointing part about this is that I don't think I can get the Goosestep achievement in this run because I can't get Absolute Monarchy to add discipline to get up to 125%. Maybe I can get rebels later in the game to flip me so I can finish up that Achievement as well.

EDIT: Nvm, just need to take economic and quality later on in the campaign to get an extra 5% out of a policy. Should put me at 125 with Prussian ambitions, Church Power Discipline raise, Offensive and Quality.
Last edited by RedSands; Dec 15, 2015 @ 5:57am
Azazel Dec 15, 2015 @ 7:02am 
i did the same thing after getting the riga archievement,switched to prussia.what a monster was born out of the lovely town of riga...
i stampeded over everybody without taking care about AE-quantity,quality,defensive ideas and the prussian ideas where to much for my neighbours.
eat up scandinavia "2/3 of russia,then vasalized them,big parts of hungary and when i stopped about 1730 i was thinking about forming germany for fun-standing deep inside the hre
they cant do anything.i have a AE level of hundreds with nearly everyone in europe and they stopped forming coalitions...
got boring
Last edited by Azazel; Dec 15, 2015 @ 8:29am
Locomotive Dec 15, 2015 @ 9:55am 
Brandenburg is a lot harder it seems because of so many enemies in the HRE.
Sader Dec 15, 2015 @ 1:42pm 
From what I've seen so far with TC and/or 1.14, when you form a new nation you're no longer forced to change to a useless monarchy and also get an event to choose whether you want the new ideas or not.
Locomotive Dec 16, 2015 @ 1:47pm 
Wait, so how do you form Prussia with someone other than Brandenburg? Is it only specific to a few nations? Are there any actual benefits from non-monarchy?
Last edited by Locomotive; Dec 16, 2015 @ 1:47pm
Tiny Tyrant Dec 16, 2015 @ 3:08pm 
Originally posted by Locomotive:
Wait, so how do you form Prussia with someone other than Brandenburg? Is it only specific to a few nations? Are there any actual benefits from non-monarchy?

Brandenburg, Teutonic Order, Riga, and Livonian Order can all form Prussia. Brandenburg can for historical reasons, and the other three can because their primary culture is Prussian. Even though LO has no provinces with their primary culture. According to the wiki, Saxon and Pomeranian nations can also form Prussia. You just have to control certain provinces, be Protestant or Reformed, and have tech 10 admin.

The benefits from non-monarchies include but are not limited to:
1. No regencies, you'll always be able to attack. This is especially helpful when you need to exploit a larger nation's moment of weakness.
2. No PUs, you never have to worry about becoming a subject nation.
3. No legitimacy, Imho legitimacy is much harder to maintain than RT or Devoutness.
4. Republican sufferance, Republics get passive bonuses making them more stable and less prone to massive rebellions.
Last edited by Tiny Tyrant; Dec 16, 2015 @ 3:09pm
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