AI acepts Call to Arms, but doesn't actually move their armies?

[b9chomps]

I'm pretty new to EU4. I played a few campaign until 1520s, but haven't really learned everything there is.

Since yesterday the AI seems to be useless as an ally to me.

First I declared war on Aragorn as France. They were in a PU with Castille who called in Portugal and Burgundy. I was allied with Austria. They accepted my Call to Arms, but their 28 stack didn't move one bit. They also didn't train any new regiments. I won almost all of the initial battles on the Pyrenees to get terrain boni, but with all the sieges I had to do to get through their forts, my manpower depleted completely and they won the upper hand.

The second instance was at the start with Portugal. I declared war on Morocco to grab Tangiers. Castile honored the CTA, but their army just stood there, leaving me to fight with Morocco and their allies.

In both instances they weren't in another war. Am I missing something? I know I sometimes accept a CTA and just send my navy or nothing at all. Does the AI do that as well?

[Tayip]

i often accept CTA then don't do anything if i see no reason to help. the AI is entitled to do the same as well imo.

[Bene]

I think vassals are more useful. They are usually not as strong as alies but they always help. Ive had your problem with alies too, but not with vassals

[Koseph]

I'm not sure any of this matters but here it goes.
-try to have relations maxed with your ally before you go to war.
-use the opinon map mode to see what the opinion is with your ally and your intended enemy, if they like them too much they may join the war but not fight.
-Does your ally actually have a route to get there? unlike ck2 or Total war you can't just walk through peoples land, you need treaties or a common war or something.

and finaly, if you have to rely on the computer to acomplish something, don't do it. It's nice to have them on the allied list to keep other computers from declaring war on you but have you ever seen the ottomans try to invade cyprus?

[b9chomps]

Originally posted by Koseph:

I'm not sure any of this matters but here it goes.
-try to have relations maxed with your ally before you go to war.
-use the opinon map mode to see what the opinion is with your ally and your intended enemy, if they like them too much they may join the war but not fight.
-Does your ally actually have a route to get there? unlike ck2 or Total war you can't just walk through peoples land, you need treaties or a common war or something.

and finaly, if you have to rely on the computer to acomplish something, don't do it. It's nice to have them on the allied list to keep other computers from declaring war on you but have you ever seen the ottomans try to invade cyprus?

Castile had Morocco as a rival and Austria had very high trust in me (4+ wars together), so I didn't think that would be a problem. Regarding the access, Castile could have transported to Morocco. Austria should have had access to Burgundy since it bordered the HRE and Austria was emperor at the time. From there they could've crossed France (me) to get to Aragorn.

Originally posted by Tayip:

i often accept CTA then don't do anything if i see no reason to help. the AI is entitled to do the same as well imo.

It's just I didn't know this was a possibility. Now that I know I can change my playstyle accordingly.

Thanks for the replies everybody.

[Bird the III]

1) could be they didnt pay full maintenance give them a few month maybe they moe
2) they dont have military access / no ships
3) fighting in another war and that gets em confused
4) save exit to main manue reload that often helps

[Warcrimes]

Haha your dumb no way you could of won that even with AI help.

[DEVITO]

I've noticed the same thing after the last patch was released - alliances with AI nations became useless. In the other words, it became only aestethic thing.

[xXxHussarxXx]

Welcome to EU4
I've had a game with GB where I declared war on France which was allied with Mali and literally had Mali send a single troop to Cornwell with their only transport ship while my Scandinavian ally didn't send a single troop even though they had a good navy and a good army

[b9chomps]

Originally posted by Warcrimes:

Haha your dumb no way you could of won that even with AI help.

It feels great to be insulted by someone who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're" and says "could of won".

With Austria's help I would have no problem taking on Aragorn, Burgundy, Castile and Portugal. I alone could mach their army strength of 75. Austria would have contributed another 40+. On my own I only lost because my manpower got depleted.

Please stop commenting on my chances without even knowing the situation.

[Warcrimes]

Originally posted by stereotype:

Originally posted by Warcrimes:

Haha your dumb no way you could of won that even with AI help.

It feels great to be insulted by someone who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're" and says "could of won".

With Austria's help I would have no problem taking on Aragorn, Burgundy, Castile and Portugal. I alone could mach their army strength of 75. Austria would have contributed another 40+. On my own I only lost because my manpower got depleted.

Please stop commenting on my chances without even knowing the situation.

There is no way you could of won all those countries are big countries and the AI does not use its troops in a way that would be competent, as for you saying i do not use the correct terminolgy i could care less. Oh and also i have 500 hours in this game you have something like 115 so i have way more expierence and know europe and HRE mechanics very well.

[xXxHussarxXx]

Originally posted by Warcrimes:

Originally posted by stereotype:

It feels great to be insulted by someone who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're" and says "could of won".

With Austria's help I would have no problem taking on Aragorn, Burgundy, Castile and Portugal. I alone could mach their army strength of 75. Austria would have contributed another 40+. On my own I only lost because my manpower got depleted.

Please stop commenting on my chances without even knowing the situation.

There is no way you could of won all those countries are big countries and the AI does not use its troops in a way that would be competent, as for you saying i do not use the correct terminolgy i could care less. Oh and also i have 500 hours in this game you have something like 115 so i have way more expierence and know europe and HRE mechanics very well.

You're right but you shouldn't have called him dumb for not knowing that he still would have lost

[Matze3]

Originally posted by Warcrimes:

Originally posted by stereotype:

It feels great to be insulted by someone who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're" and says "could of won".

With Austria's help I would have no problem taking on Aragorn, Burgundy, Castile and Portugal. I alone could mach their army strength of 75. Austria would have contributed another 40+. On my own I only lost because my manpower got depleted.

Please stop commenting on my chances without even knowing the situation.

There is no way you could of won all those countries are big countries and the AI does not use its troops in a way that would be competent, as for you saying i do not use the correct terminolgy i could care less. Oh and also i have 500 hours in this game you have something like 115 so i have way more expierence and know europe and HRE mechanics very well.

he could have won that war if he went after burgundy first and forced them to peace out of the war ....then he would have a good chance of winning... but fighting against aragon first is a big mistake because every nation gets +10000 manpower/year... that means they´ll replenish their manpower faster than you. so you have to get many to peace out as soon as you can or you´ll loose ....
but back on the matter: i think that only happens if you declare the war...if you are defender that doesn´t happen(at least i didn´t notice it until now)

[xXxHussarxXx]

Originally posted by Matze3:

Originally posted by Warcrimes:

There is no way you could of won all those countries are big countries and the AI does not use its troops in a way that would be competent, as for you saying i do not use the correct terminolgy i could care less. Oh and also i have 500 hours in this game you have something like 115 so i have way more expierence and know europe and HRE mechanics very well.

he could have won that war if he went after burgundy first and forced them to peace out of the war ....then he would have a good chance of winning... but fighting against aragon first is a big mistake because every nation gets +10000 manpower/year... that means they´ll replenish their manpower faster than you. so you have to get many of them to peace out as soon as you can or you´ll loose ....
but back on the matter: i think that only happens if you declare the war...if you are defender that doesn´t happen(at least i didn´t notice it until now)

You could also take a lot of loans and use mercs to make up for the manpower