Europa Universalis IV

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koliszp Oct 7, 2015 @ 1:21pm
Get rid of being HRE elector
Is it possible? Iam playing AS bohemia and iam an Emperor and i dont want to be elector anymore.
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koliszp Oct 7, 2015 @ 1:38pm 
Well thats the point. I still want to be an Emperor. Iam playing AS bohemia conquered Poland and after forming Poland all my provinces would be removed from an empire and then i could add them all again. The same would happen IF i form commonwealth IF i understand this how this works properly.
But because iam an elector all my provinces and me stay in empire
Last edited by koliszp; Oct 7, 2015 @ 1:40pm
koliszp Oct 7, 2015 @ 2:15pm 
No iam talking about that when you form a nation and you are not an elector of hre all your provinces are removed from HRE. So for exampe. IF you are teutons who joined hre (i played them and it worked) and you form prussia (teutons are not electors) all your provinces are removed automaticaly from HRE but IF you are Emperor then you can quicky add them again for imperial authority. The same happens when you upgrade your kingdom rank fron duchy to kingdom and from kingdom to empire IF iam correct.
koliszp Oct 7, 2015 @ 2:34pm 
No i didnt lose them. I want to leave hre during forming Poland (that would happen IF i would not be an elector) when ill leave hre i will still be an Emperor and i would add them to the empire again for free imperial authority. The whole thing that iam asking is "Is it possible to give up your electorate without leaving hre and beeing the Emperor"
koliszp Oct 7, 2015 @ 2:44pm 
No its not that. I think you dont understand me. IF you form a nation and you are not an elector all your provinces are removed from empire except non cored hre provinces. But IF you are Emperor during forming a nation then you will leave hre as well but maintain your Emperor status. (Emperor not being a part od hre) Then you can quickly JOIN hre again by adding your provinces and get a lot of imperial authority for free. I have something like 50 provinces so forming Poland is one reform for free. Forming Commonwealth (with lithuanian provinces you get is almost 2 reforms for free and upgrading your kingdom to empire is another reforms for free. I want to do it to quickly pass reforms.
koliszp Oct 7, 2015 @ 2:47pm 
Of course you can be an elector and emperor at the same time. I was elected AS bohemia and iam still an elector.
Surimi Oct 7, 2015 @ 4:09pm 
Originally posted by koliszp:
No its not that. I think you dont understand me. IF you form a nation and you are not an elector all your provinces are removed from empire except non cored hre provinces. But IF you are Emperor during forming a nation then you will leave hre as well but maintain your Emperor status.

Since Poland is a kingdom rank title (as is Bohemia) forming Poland as Bohemia shouldn't remove you from the HRE.

Regular members of the HRE are restricted to duchy rank, and will be kicked out if they try to form a higher rank title. Electors, however, can be kingdom rank and will only be kicked out if they try to form an Emperor rank title (like Germany).

So in short, Bohemia can form Poland without leaving the HRE. Silesia, for example, could not.

This might also help to explain why it is impossible to simply give up being an elector without leaving the HRE.
Zeth Oct 7, 2015 @ 6:05pm 
Originally posted by TsarAlexis:
Oh wow well that is a good trick I was not aware of either. Wouldn't you be to large to join the HRE though at that point? Or is that a special mechanic where the outside the HRE Emperor can join even though they are too large?

Joining the HRE is really only a matter of being able to have good enough relations with the Emperor. Since it's capped at 200 that will also create a cap on how many provinces you can have. That's why you can always join the HRE as the Emperor even if you are a blob monster. :)
koliszp Oct 8, 2015 @ 2:01am 
Zeth thanks a lot. So it will work only IF ill upgrade myself to emoore.
Zeth Oct 8, 2015 @ 7:02am 
Originally posted by koliszp:
Zeth thanks a lot. So it will work only IF ill upgrade myself to emoore.

What i said doesn't help you i'm afraid.
What Deep Hurting said is probably true that you will get booted from the HRE if you form an Empire level country, but you can't form Germany while you're the Emperor. There aren't any other reasonable choices that i know of.
The only way would be to lose an Emperor election, leave the HRE manually, gain Emperor again and then you can do what you want. But these ways seems awfully inefficient compared to just gaining IA the old fashioned way since they'll both revolve around you losing Emperorship first. I'd just play it like at Austria game at this point if i were you.
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Date Posted: Oct 7, 2015 @ 1:21pm
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