Forming Commonwealth as Lithuania

[Kvaisir]

Forming the Commonwealth as Lithuania with a PU over Poland does not change the name of the Commonwealth to Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth after forming. Can someone reproduce this? Or is this just a problem with my game? I'm not using any mods.
I am playing the game in german so it's should be named "Litauen-Polen" and not "Polen-Litauen" but changing the game language to english results in the same error.

[Damphair]

It's not called the polish-lithuanian commonwealth in english game settings, the tag is just called ''Commonwealth''.

[Kvaisir]

That's true if you form it as Poland. If you form it as Lithuania in the decision it reads:
"The country:
becomes Commonwealth
changes its name to “Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth” if the primary culture is Lithuanian or the country is Lithuania"

This does not work as intended. At least for me.

[cayenne_spicy]

Digesting from what's noted on the wiki: the decision to form the Commonwealth changes your primary culture to Polish automatically, but the LPC requires Lithuanian as your primary culture, so the only way to become the LPC (and to get LPC national ideas) is to activate the decision, then click nothing else except to open your government screen and change your primary culture back to Lithuanian, and only then click the various popups that occurred when you enacted the decision.

Super funky, non-intuitive, and probably something the developers need to look at.

[Kvaisir]

That's not what is happening ingame. The culture stays Lithuanian and i get the LPC ideas - only the name is wrong. It is working perfectly fine for Hungaria-Austria and you can change the name back to Austria-Hungaria via decision. But not so for Lithuania into Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth.

I'm also 100% sure, that it worked back in the day, when Lions of the North released.
It's only the name, so i can live with that. But it's not working as intended.

[Narrowmind]

If this is true, you'll want to report the bug at Paradox.

[cayenne_spicy]

Originally posted by Kvaisir:

That's not what is happening ingame. The culture stays Lithuanian and i get the LPC ideas - only the name is wrong. It is working perfectly fine for Hungaria-Austria and you can change the name back to Austria-Hungaria via decision. But not so for Lithuania into Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth.

I'm also 100% sure, that it worked back in the day, when Lions of the North released.
It's only the name, so i can live with that. But it's not working as intended.

Are you using any mods?

I use "Dynamic Names 2", for example, and a lot of name changes which I'd normally get otherwise don't happen due to the mod. For example, the new mission tree for Theodoro should change their name to Gothia, while retaining the same tag, but the mod doesn't have any way to handle that, so the name remains Theodoro. The same happens with Byzantium and the mission which changes the name to Eastern Roman Empire. The same also happens with basically every Muslim Monarchy - in a current multiplayer campaign I began as Mzab, which resulted in my country's name being the Mzabi Emirate (Muslim Monarchies with the mod end up named as "Dynastyname" "Countrytype", and in this case my ruling dynasty was Mzabi). I became Kingdom rank and it switched to Mzabi Sultanate. When I tag-switched from Mzab to Morocco, my map color changed, but my country was still called Mzabi Sultanate, because I was still a Muslim Monarchy, and my dynasty name hadn't changed, therefore my country name didn't change even when I changed tag.

So, it could be something mod-related like that, maybe, if you're using mods.

[cayenne_spicy]

It also might be a localization limitation. I just noticed in your original post that the names you wrote out aren't English, so it's possible that in the language you're using, the developers didn't implement a Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth name. You could check the localization files for the language you're using and see if it's even in there. If it's not, then the game isn't really doing anything buggy per se, it's working as intended, it just doesn't have the name in the database to pull into the game.

[Kvaisir]

Thanks for your input, cayenne. I really appreciate it.

I am not using any mods. I do play the game in german and i had the same idea as you, that it could have something to do with the localization. But the same error exists if i change the game language to english. No Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth despite it is explicitly mentioned in the decision to form the Commonwealth as Lithuania.

[cayenne_spicy]

Originally posted by Kvaisir:

Thanks for your input, cayenne. I really appreciate it.

I am not using any mods. I do play the game in german and i had the same idea as you, that it could have something to do with the localization. But the same error exists if i change the game language to english. No Lithuanian-Polish Commonwealth despite it is explicitly mentioned in the decision to form the Commonwealth as Lithuania.

Oh, you said that you'd tried that and I hadn't noticed in your original post - sorry about that! Hmm. Is your government type still a Monarchy? Still Catholic? Just checking because sometimes the developers overlook unusual combinations, so if you'd changed to a Hussite Republic or something, maybe that might be a combination they overlooked in the localization files even in English.

[Kvaisir]

Yes, i stayed catholic and did not change my government type.

[Damphair]

It's because it's the same tag, wether you form it as Poland or Lithuania. It's the same if you form Scandinavia as Sweden, Denmark or Norway, the tag is ''Scandinavia'' just as the tag for forming the commonwealth is just the ''Commonwealth''. Now the issue here seems to be that the tag in german is ''Poland-Litauen'' and not the ''Commonwealth'' as it is in english. The devs have simply not created a unique tag for forming the Commonwealth as Lithuania, which imo is completly unnecessary as the ''Commonwealth'' can refer to both polish or lithuanian command.

[cayenne_spicy]

Originally posted by Damphair:

It's because it's the same tag, wether you form it as Poland or Lithuania. It's the same if you form Scandinavia as Sweden, Denmark or Norway, the tag is ''Scandinavia'' just as the tag for forming the commonwealth is just the ''Commonwealth''. Now the issue here seems to be that the tag in german is ''Poland-Litauen'' and not the ''Commonwealth'' as it is in english. The devs have simply not created a unique tag for forming the Commonwealth as Lithuania, which imo is completly unnecessary as the ''Commonwealth'' can refer to both polish or lithuanian command.

There are two tags: PLC, and LPC. Each tag has a different national idea set.

[Narrowmind]

But they both have the same name, right?

[cayenne_spicy]

Originally posted by Narrowmind:

But they both have the same name, right?

Not according to the Wiki. There are two separate, different versions of the Commonwealth, with different tags, different national ideas, and different country names (under default unmodded conditions) that can occur depending on which country/culture makes it happen.

https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Commonwealth

[JVC]

Originally posted by Damphair:

It's because it's the same tag, wether you form it as Poland or Lithuania. It's the same if you form Scandinavia as Sweden, Denmark or Norway, the tag is ''Scandinavia'' just as the tag for forming the commonwealth is just the ''Commonwealth''. Now the issue here seems to be that the tag in german is ''Poland-Litauen'' and not the ''Commonwealth'' as it is in english. The devs have simply not created a unique tag for forming the Commonwealth as Lithuania, which imo is completly unnecessary as the ''Commonwealth'' can refer to both polish or lithuanian command.

Commonwealth is one of those English terms that don't really have equivalents in other languages. If the only alternative in German would be "Rzeczpospolita" or "Republik" it makes sense to just use the normal name, "Polen-Litauen". And you can't really blame a translator for missing that that someone would use a non-standard version of that name in the English text.