Are Naval Batteries worth it?

[Aksolotli]

Simple. Are they? Let's like say in Sicily and Sardinia?

[Narrowmind]

Roleplaying, maybe.

[grognardgary]

Put it this way it costs more to build fortifications than it does a ship and you can't move a fortification.

[Eddi]

As the player is usually the most offensive country, defensive features are usually more effective against the player than against AI countrys.

Without a strong navy to hunt down enemies, it won't stop them from landing on your island. The best defense is a good offense, they say.

Since i sprinkled my naval defense along the baltic coast, nobody has even come close to blockading anything. Hard to say whether the defenses or the fleets scared them away.

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Under normal circumstances the AI is actively immune to naval attrition; their behavior simply "encourages" them to avoid areas where their boats ordinarily would take attrition... well, most of the time, at least. Not sure whether that also applies to the attrition inflicted by Naval Batteries or not.

[Marquoz]

I never build them unless a mission forces me to. And then I tear them out the moment the mission is complete and replace them with actually useful buildings.

[bri]

Originally posted by Marquoz:

I never build them unless a mission forces me to. And then I tear them out the moment the mission is complete and replace them with actually useful buildings.

This (it also applies to docks and shipyards).

[Vengeance]

I use them a lot since they increase the disenbarkment time. Often enough so that your fleet can arrive and strike. AI don't play marines so is a good bonus. But they are just good for that, not for the attrition to enemy fleet.

[Mason]

Feels like they should get Courthouse treatment, i.e. no buildling slot.

[Aksolotli]

Originally posted by Mason:

Feels like they should get Courthouse treatment, i.e. no buildling slot.

I herd EU5 has no building slots but the buildings now cost stone or wood. Could be interesting.

[cayenne_spicy]

Originally posted by bri:

Originally posted by Marquoz:

I never build them unless a mission forces me to. And then I tear them out the moment the mission is complete and replace them with actually useful buildings.

This (it also applies to docks and shipyards).

Also agreed with these guys (I do like shipyards, though, but only if the province has 3+ building slots, because slots 1 and 2 will be a workshop and manufactory and it isn't even remotely worth skipping either of those for the sake of a shipyard - but for my playstyle I like a lot of army mobility which means a lot of transports and a prioritization of taking coastal provinces in peace deals so I can easily land armies en masse where I want them).

[Marquoz]

Originally posted by bri:

Originally posted by Marquoz:

I never build them unless a mission forces me to. And then I tear them out the moment the mission is complete and replace them with actually useful buildings.

This (it also applies to docks and shipyards).

Yup. Although I'll keep the occasional shipyard (like the one in Toulon you build for the French tree) if a mission gives it a nice bonus.

[bri]

Originally posted by cayenne_spicy:

Originally posted by bri:

This (it also applies to docks and shipyards).

Also agreed with these guys (I do like docks, though, but only if the province has 3+ building slots, because slots 1 and 2 will be a workshop and manufactory and it isn't even remotely worth skipping either of those for the sake of a dock - but for my playstyle I like a lot of army mobility which means a lot of transports and a prioritization of taking coastal provinces in peace deals so I can easily land armies en masse where I want them).

You can pretty easily do that without docks though, and naval maintenance on transports is negligible so blowing way past your force limit isn't even noticeable in that regard until you start getting dozens of heavies...

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

I like building Shipyards in provinces where the nation I'm playing historically had major shipbuilding operations. Especially in Japan.

[cayenne_spicy]

Originally posted by bri:

Originally posted by cayenne_spicy:

Also agreed with these guys (I do like docks, though, but only if the province has 3+ building slots, because slots 1 and 2 will be a workshop and manufactory and it isn't even remotely worth skipping either of those for the sake of a dock - but for my playstyle I like a lot of army mobility which means a lot of transports and a prioritization of taking coastal provinces in peace deals so I can easily land armies en masse where I want them).

You can pretty easily do that without docks though, and naval maintenance on transports is negligible so blowing way past your force limit isn't even noticeable in that regard until you start getting dozens of heavies...

Flub on my part - I meant shipyards, haha! Docks are about as useful as just having an empty slot.

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Originally posted by cayenne_spicy:

Originally posted by bri:

You can pretty easily do that without docks though, and naval maintenance on transports is negligible so blowing way past your force limit isn't even noticeable in that regard until you start getting dozens of heavies...

Flub on my part - I meant shipyards, haha! Docks are about as useful as just having an empty slot.

Hey now, they do have one legitimate use... getting the "Sailor Mon" achievement without conquering half the world or playing an extra couple of hundred years!