league war with internal peace

[Omniconda]

So latest Austria run ive passed reform to make internal peace with the empire, in the hope of a quick revoke. but also had a major out break of heretics now up to 80 princes :( what i couldnt convert due to the internal peace.
I can still get IA so just months before i could declare religious peace by reform the leagues formed. This means i cant i cant take reforms which sucks id have revoked by now......

The league war can never start due to internal peace so i didnt think it was even possible to form..... why is it possible to take sides in the league war if the only possible outcome is the other side wins (game mechanic oversight??)

So the real question... how long does it take for this league to go away and is there any triggers i need to meet to make it happen faster? some really old reddit posts says the emperor needs to be at peace for a certain amount of time and other say there is a set year it will always go away. If i have to wait till the 1600s il go take over Africa while i wait but if its matter of doing nothing for 10 years il speed 5 an go make a coffee.

[grotaclas]

The league war can be declared by a protestant non-HRE country if they become the leader of the protestant league. They just have to be big/strong enough.

If this doesn't happen for 30 years, there is the chance for the event https://eu4.paradoxwikis.com/Religious_league_events#The_Diet_of_$CAPITAL_CITY$ which makes catholic the official faith. Make sure that all requirements are fulfilled at that time. It has an MTTH of 5 years, so it can take some time to fire and it can't happen if you are at war.

[Marquoz]

Originally posted by Omniconda:

So latest Austria run ive passed reform to make internal peace with the empire, in the hope of a quick revoke. but also had a major out break of heretics now up to 80 princes :(

As you have seen, this is not the optimal approach. Don't pass the internal peace reform until after you revoke the privilege. Prior to that, engage in endless internal wars. Stomp out every center of reformation. Force heretic electors to convert to Catholic so the religious leagues never form at all. Force all other princes to convert to Catholic to maximize imperial authority gain. Break up large HRE nations so there are more capitals and it's more likely that centers of reformation appear in them (and for added imperial authority gain).

[Omniconda]

The thinking was internal peace would stop the league war forming. i guess il know for next time. And so i could keep all the HRE members out of my larger european wars.
the stupid part being that if i had taken 2 reforms on the centralization path instead id have revoked 50 years ago.

il just ignore the HRE till 1625 as there only only 2 other major large powers left to deal with Ottomans and GB

Next run i wont be so slow or silly to make internal peace first

[grotaclas]

Originally posted by Omniconda:

il just ignore the HRE till 1625 as there only only 2 other major large powers left to deal with Ottomans and GB

Why 1625? That's the earliest date for the diet even in case the leagues didn't happen. But it holds no significance in case the leagues formed.

[Omniconda]

thats how i read the requirements?

Any of
year 1625 - it happens if im at peace a for a while after this??

or

it runs for 30 years and no elector is part of the league or has a truce - as i only have about 6 Catholics in the whole empire that wont happen.

so if i ignore it it just goes away when it passes the end date...

Is the Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire
Is not at war
No known country engaged in Religious League war
Does not have a regency
Does not have the flag HRE Religion Locked
Does not have the flag HRE Religion Treaty
Is Catholicism Catholic
Any of the following must be true
Global flag Evangelical Union Happened is not set and year is at least 1625
All of the following must be true:
Has the flag HRE Leagues Enabled
Global flag Evangelical Union Happened has been set for at least Time 30 years
No known country:
Is an elector
Is Protestant, Reformed, Hussite, or Anglican
Is a league enemy
Has a truce with HRE Emperor

[grotaclas]

Originally posted by Omniconda:

thats how i read the requirements?
Any of
year 1625 - it happens if im at peace a for a while after this??

That's not what the wiki says. It says: "Global flag Evangelical Union Happened is not set and year is at least 1625". But that flag is set if you have the leagues, so this condition can never be true in your game.

Originally posted by Omniconda:

thats how i read the requirements?
or

it runs for 30 years and no elector is part of the league or has a truce - as i only have about 6 Catholics in the whole empire that wont happen.

There is no "or" between "part of the league" and "truce". All the lines are connected by an implicit "and". So you can get it, as long as you don't get truces with the non-catholic electors which are in the protestant league(after waiting the 30 years).

[Omniconda]

so that leaves the question - is it listed anywhere what year the league formed so i know when the 30 years timer is up?

i always struggle with those condition trees so thx for explaining

[grotaclas]

Originally posted by Omniconda:

so that leaves the question - is it listed anywhere what year the league formed so i know when the 30 years timer is up?

i always struggle with those condition trees so thx for explaining

I don't know any ingame way. But you could check for the flag in the save file

[Omniconda]

i dont think il mess with the save. guessing its been 25ish years il try stay at peace a while