Form Germany or Unite HRE?

[Vin]

As Austria, should I form German nation or unite Holy Roman Empire into a single empire?

[Syslik]

Form Byz after (before) revoking :)
Joke aside, forming Austria-Hungary is best move, while staying emperor ofc (germany and hre almost same tag)

[Medicles]

The absolute best move is to stay with the HRE vassal swarm, thats when you are the strongest in the game.

If you do want to form someone else, then it depends i guess. HRE has good national ideas and i believe the austrian missions stay; Germany has also proper national ideas and the missions are based on the endgame.

There isnt really much that significantly differs from the two, especially for endgame where you should be the strongest power in the world anyway. So just try out what you like. Do not form Austria-Hungary though, just a waste.

[RCMidas]

You can have it both ways with a bit of effort if you really really want to. Don't be Emperor at the moment you form Germany, otherwise the HRE will simply be dismantled summarily, and then reclaim the position and revoke as usual.

[Marquoz]

Originally posted by Syslik:

Form Byz after (before) revoking :)
Joke aside, forming Austria-Hungary is best move...

Don't do this unless you're role-playing. Austria-Hungary is the boobie prize for a bad Austria run. Get the union over Hungary, stack diplo rep, and integrate them for free instead many decades earlier.

Then, as Medicles said, revoke the privilege and stomp everyone with the vassal swarm.

[Totally Innocent Chatbot]

Originally posted by Medicles:

If you do want to form someone else, then it depends i guess. HRE has good national ideas and i believe the austrian missions stay; Germany has also proper national ideas and the missions are based on the endgame.

HRE and Germany share a mostly similar mission tree, with a couple of branches altered between the two. Unless something was changed in Winds of Change, uniting the HRE as Austria does not keep your original mission tree.